Lennar Corporation Class A (NYSE:LEN)

Strategy Session August 10th, 2020

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  • StockMarketMentor: ...
    Stocks on the ATI List are fine though I am still not happy with the homebuilders. I am about "time stopped" on those stocks -- meaning, they've been on the list since August 23 and haven't done much. $TOL is up just slightly, but $LEN a ...
  • StockMarketMentor: Just added $OCUL with a basis of 9.80 and a suggested stop at 8.95. Removing $AAPL from the ATI list. Removing $GD. Trapped in consolidation and it'll likely take a while (or a war) for this one to break out. Keeping $DVA even though the stop got tagged yesterday. I think the homebuilders ($LEN $DHI $TOL) are going to grind around here for a while. Either be patient or be gone. Have a good weekend! --Dan
  • scottrades: My notes: $SPY Looks healthy so far $QQQ At the 21 EMA $IWM Testing the 50 Day $DXY Back above the 50 Day $TLT Expectation breaker $GLD Holding in trend $GDX Near the 21 EMA $XHB Under the 8EMA $SMH Support at the 50 Day $KWEB Extended $XLE Watch for a back test $NVDA Just under resistance. $GOOGL Still above the MAs $META Near the highs $PLTR Near the highs $AMD Trying to get above the 200 Day $MNDY Flag $TKO Above all the MAs $ONON At the 21 EMA $BWIN In an uptrend $PLMR Support at the 50 Day $LEN Holding the 21 EMA $TOL Basing $WPM Watch for support to hold $GOLD Just above the 50 Day
  • StockMarketMentor: ...
    $LEN -- working

    $META -- New ATH today. High volume.

    $NTRA -- working well.

    $NVDA -- testing 50-day ma. This is not working. $NVDA is not something I’d want to own here

    $TOL -- working. At ATHs

    $TSM -- still consolidating. ...
  • scottrades: $XBH new highs. Watch $TOL, $PHM, $LEN and $BLDR to name a few.
  • StockMarketMentor: ...
    Election. Likely to be extremely volatile. My bet is that the market will trade lower and give us another good buying opportunity. The election will not be decided for weeks and will probably go into December. My sense is that most people are no ...
  • StockMarketMentor: ...
    $LEN: Status quo at 173.45. I'm leaving the homies some room to run because I don't want to get stopped out of really strong uptrends by typical oscillations in the stock price.

    $TOL: Remains at 136.50.

    $DHI: Remains at 179.80.

    $VKTX: Rema ...
  • StockMarketMentor: ...
    $LEN -- walking the upper Bollinger Band.

    $DHI -- walking the walk along the upper Bollinger Band.

    $TOL -- gentle breakout above $150 is working though TOL ( like LEN/DHI) is a bit of a slow mover.

    $NTRA --Up a bit since our 124.48 entry.
    ...
  • wineinquirer: @StockMarketMentor $IBKR $DASH $META $DVA $LEN $DHI $TOL $NTRA $FRPT $TGTX $GD $SAVA $TSM FRPT breakout looks to be 143, not 443?
  • DAN: @wineinquirer $IBKR $DASH $META $DVA $LEN $DHI $TOL $NTRA $FRPT $TGTX $GD $SAVA $TSM Got it! Thanks for noticing that, wineinquirer.
  • Max115: $LEN reports tomorrow
  • StockMarketMentor: ...
    But...the homebuilders are looking good! The three homies on our ATI list ($DHI, $LEN and $TOL) are back at or slightly above the cost basis on these stocks. I made a mistake and put those stocks on the list on the last breakout and this put us in ...
  • StockMarketMentor: Raising the stops on: $FRPT from 125.93 to 127.95. The objective is to cut risk just a bit. $LEN from 165.62 to 169.95. $DHI from 166.95 to 179.80. $TOL -- new stop is 136.50. $FRPT from 125.93 to 127.95 I repeat that you are responsible for your own stops. Mine are just general references and not recommendations. --Dan
  • StockMarketMentor: ...
    $LEN: Basis 184.59 Stop 165.62.

    There are a few others that look enticing, but the ones above look the best to me. I want to see a stock breaking through resistance rather than just trading at the top of a wide channel. Your mileage may vary. ...
  • X802tp01: @StockMarketMentor $TOL $DHI $LEN I like the lighter happy go lucky Dan
  • DAN: @X802tp01 $TOL $DHI $LEN I'm drunk. And I am always a happy drunk. (I'm kidding).
  • scottrades: ...
    Home Builders are also perking up again after a few days along the 8/21 EMAs. Watch $LEN $KBH $PHM $MHO and $TOL which has been mentioned a few times in the Trading Room. $NVDA is also firming up above the MAs again. $META is close to the highs, wat ...
  • bigbartabs: @scottrades $GLD $TLT $UUP $CP $TECK $GOLD $MGA $F $GM $SU $IMO $CNQ $IBIT $MSTR $LEN $KBH $PHM $MHO $TOL $NVDA $META $ANET $PLTR ... and there's few economic interruptions that turn out as severe as transportation disruptions. Take the LA Port fiasco that occurred... perfect example of how bad it can get in that sector.
  • Hawaiianmaxx: @bigbartabs $GLD $TLT $UUP $CP $TECK $GOLD $MGA $F $GM $SU $IMO $CNQ $IBIT $MSTR $LEN $KBH $PHM $MHO $TOL $NVDA $META $ANET $PLTR I stared to plant vegetables in the yard for that reason. Hawaii only has about 3 days worth of food if matson or young brothers can't bring food here
  • bwcarnation1: @Mckirdie12 $PHM was downgraded today by Wolf, and upgraded $LEN to $210....That's all I got at the moment.
  • scottrades: My notes: $SPY Sector Rotation $QQQ Sector Rotation $IWM Mentioned Tuesday $DXY The the 200 Day $TNX Close to breaking down $SMH At the 8EMA $XLF Close to the highs $XHB Great volume $URA Holding above the 50 $XBI Breaking out of a range $GLD Want to see it hold the gap $GDX Gap filled $ELF Mentioned in the forum $LEN Through the 50 on good volume $TOL Same $KBH Power off the 50 Day $HD Great volume $BLDR Bottom fish $CCJ Extended above the 50 $NXE Above the 50 Day $FANG Watch 209 $UBER Earnings July 30 $FTI just under resistance $SCHW Earnings next week $VNO Gap and go $AAON Close to a pivot $APPF Watch 257
  • vitoB: $TOL $LEN $KBH...on the backs of TOL not holding the 120 and LEN gettin hit on earnings, previous quarter had a lot of days above 7% so fading $KBH earnings today
  • DavidK: $LEN up 45% on puts bought at close yesterday. Expire next Friday . If you listened to CEO interview it’s as expected , margins will suffer as selling prices coming down some . Will it affect Luxury builder $TOL? Maybe not maybe so depending on stock market conditions. If market corrects which I see coming sooner than later , rich pull back when they look at monthly stock statements .
  • Cheezit: Thoughts on earnings tonight from $LEN? I have a full position with 5% gain and thinking about if thats enough to hold overnight? Looks a tad extended from the 200dma as it broke above the previous high of $158.
  • debeers: $LEN-@Cheezit. I cannot tell you if you should hold. I CAN tell you they beat 6 times in a row. My choice when cuts in interest seem far awsay is $TOL but How about this? Cash some.
  • Cheezit: @debeers $LEN $TOL Yup seems like the play..
  • MongosPawn: @Cheezit $LEN Love the chart, the increase in their dividend, and their buy back plan. Took a starter a couple of weeks ago so up a bit. Will be holding overnight. But again, I have a small position.
  • DavidG: @Cheezit $LEN I bought about a double position of $XHB on Feb 5 and it's up about 13% since that purchase date. I want to hold this long term anticipating interest rate drops over the next 12-18 months. I did not want to worry about individual company earnings surprises or disappointments necessitating closing an individual housing stock just before earnings. I wanted something that I wouldn't have to watch day to day. ( I think Dan calls this wall paper investment). During this period of time my $XHB has gone up about 13% while $LEN has only risen 8.8%. I'll stick with the index.
  • philshea: What just happened to $LEN?
  • Henry: @philshea $LEN What just happened to $LEN? There was a big candle with volume at 1:30 but I wouldn't call it a happening
  • RD: $LEN $PATH $LEN down after earnings. $PATH is up after earnings.
  • debeers: @Henry $LEN -a miss on earnings expectations.
  • MongosPawn: $LEN Half starter taken at the open. Earnings call scheduled for next week.
  • BarryC: $LEN Worth Watching
  • Mikev200: $LEN HOD
  • Nepenthe: $LEN The last four times LEN got here, it sold off the next day. Don't trust it, but...Cheers.
  • DAN: ...
    $LEN -- the black sheep of the bunch, down nearly $4 bucks from our $155.75 entry (still kicking myself for not suggesting $TOL rather than Lennar). That's trading.

    $META - Up 35.3% from the $360 entry on January 9th.

    $PSN -- Up 26% from the 64.5 ...
  • DAN: Active Trade Update Good morning. Another day, another big move for $NVDA, currently trading at $803. As I noted earlier, think of Nvidia as a horse -- ride it until it bucks you off. Here is an update on our current stops: $ANET: Basis: 269.40. Stop 252.30 $AXON: Basis 256.86. Stop 255.27 $EDU: Basis 81.30. Stop 84.65 $ELF: Basis 169.61 Stop 154.95 $IBIT: Basis 30.10 Stop 27.45 $LEN: Basis 155.75 Stop 148.75 $META: Basis 360. Stop 452.00 $PSN: Basis 64.50 Stop 73.55 --Dan For a complete list of all Active Trades, click here: https://stockmarketmentor.com/active-trades-list/
  • DAN: ...
    I am explaining this because it is a good context for understanding what's going on these days. Money wants to buy stock. Every once in a while, sellers will be more aggressive than buyers. But that's short lived because...again, plenty of money ...
  • Auto: $MSTR $CLSK $LEN $COIN added long daily
  • scottrades: My video notes: $SPY / $QQQ See the EOD Volume? $IWM Sill holding the 50 Day, for now $DXY Popped $TNX Popped $SMH At the 21 EMA $XHB Holding the 21 EMA $GE Still going. $S Earnings March 13 $AVGO Earnings March 7 $AMD Still holding up in this tape $CRWD support at the 21 EMA $GCT Working $MDB Short term support at today’s low $DDOG Off the leash $NOW Support at today’s low $TDG Upside reversal $EMR Near the ATH $BLD Earnings Feb 28 $LEN Still above the 50 Day $NBIX Support at the 50 Day
  • Auto: $LEN added RHRN long daily
  • woodman: Many #Homebuilders are drifting or have drifted into their 50d's and have responded or are responding favorably. See $KBH $DFH $TOL $CCS $GRBK $HOV $TPH $TMHC $PHM $LEN $DHI $NVR.
  • natural: @woodman $KBH $DFH $TOL $CCS $GRBK $HOV $TPH $TMHC $PHM $LEN $DHI $NVR #Homebuilders You hit the $NAIL right on the head!
  • woodman: @natural $KBH $DFH $TOL $CCS $GRBK $HOV $TPH $TMHC $PHM $LEN $DHI $NVR $NAIL #Homebuilders The basing into the 50d, provides a solid foundation for good structural support. ;-)
  • texgecko: $LEN $MHK Homebuilders seem a happy bunch today. Only 1 in the group of 35 is down. I chose $LEN. I picked $MHK in Home Furnishings and Fixtures needed by the builders.
  • debeers: @texgecko $LEN $MHK -I added to the $TOL with $LEN---only concern with $MHK is that the fibers have a high oil content and if oil goes up too far......
  • DAN: ...
    $LEN -- Flat. Nothing to do here.

    $MDB -- up 12% so far. I'm sure Cramer is happy. I'm raising the suggested stop to 427.35 to cut risk. My suggestion is that you always use the weekly charts as a reference for the price trend.

    $META -- Up 31% ...
  • Auto: $ARM $LEN $IBIT $IBM added long daily $PINS started position 5 min $35.10
  • Auto: $ARM $HSY $LEN added long daily
  • Auto: $LEN added early watching $154.11 to add again long daily
  • Auto: $LEN adding again long daily
  • Auto: $HSY $LEN $JETS $Z $MSTR $ETHE $IBIT added long daily
  • DAN: ...
    $LEN -- Limit buy stop at 155.75. Stop (assuming the breakout) at 144.50. Given the Fed's stated approach of waiting for more evidence before cutting rates, Lennar and other homebuilders might be churning for a while. No rush here.

    $EDU -- Earnin ...
  • debeers: $CRWD/$HD/$LEN/$LLY/$MSFT/$NVDA/$PANW Notes: $CRWD & $PANW- yes you can have both $LEN-Not only raising its divvie4 but buying back 5B of its own shares $LLY-the king is still the king $MSFT- will overtake aapple as most valuable co, $NVDA- you gotta have 1 semi-have the best Allthe aboved IMO and you shoud make bank on all of them
  • debeers: @Henry $ARDX - i have enough to handle with 1 retailer and $CELH, $CRWD $HD $LEN $LLY and $META $MSFT $NVDA $PANW and @Woodman does ALL of Biotech!
  • DavidG: $XHB Sold $XHB @ 94.07 for 11.7 % profit. $LEN report strong earnings but margins were lower, as was case for other homebuilders. I think this one needs a rest. Might rebuy in the future.
  • scottrades: ...
    $LEN 8EMA Support
    $PHM Breakout level is 105.15

    See you in the Trading Room!

    Scott
  • Wolf: $LEN Beat earnings and Rev, but down 4% PM.
  • DAN: ...
    Next, Lennar ($LEN) reported strong earnings last night, beating EPS estimates, beat on revenues, and beat on new orders and deliveries. The stock is down slightly pre-market. I suspect the issue is twofold. First, the stock has been on one heck of ...
  • debeers: @Wolf $LEN -i was so wrong about this one who beat and raised but folks feel that the advantage that the builders had of making lowewr rates than homesellers could, would vanish with the Fed lowering rates.
  • DAN: ...
    $LEN -- Beautiful chart if you already own it.
    $DHI -- Beautiful chart if you already own it.
    $PHM -- Beautiful chart if you already own it.

    Active Trade List:

    $MSTR -- Consolidating below $600.
    $SMH -- Sector is strong. Be long.
    $AVGO -- Up more ...
  • DAN: ...
    A couple of things to note: Toll Brothers ($TOL) reported a strong quarter, beating estimates on earnings and revenues. They've got a positive outlook for 2024. Given the "ROFLMAO Trade" in the bond market where the buyers are responding ...
  • scottrades: ...
    $LEN Flagging
    $PHM Short flag
    $TOL Hit a new high yesterday
    $PGTI Trending
    $PLTR Watch for support near the 50 Day
    $TSLA Not great but near the 50 Day

    Let’s have a great day!

    Scott
  • scottrades: All the homies ($XHB stocks) I covered last night are looking good today. $TOL $PHM $LEN $TPH
  • natural: @scottrades $XHB $TOL $PHM $LEN $TPH Looking at a little $NAIL
  • Nepenthe: @scottrades $XHB $TOL $PHM $LEN $TPH You had also mentioned $RS. I bought once it eclipsed 216 on your suggestion--216.40 to be exact--but I notice volume's very light today. Yet yesterday it was three times normal. Light volume a cause for concern, or was yesterday's impetus enough? Just curious. Keeping stop below today's low. Cheers.
  • scottrades: My notes: $SPY That close though $QQQ Closed above the 8EMA $DIA Breaking out $UUP Rebounding $TNX Watch tomorrow $TLT Holding the 8/21 $GDX Holding up $XME Breaking out $IGV Extended $URA Holding the 21 EMA $XHB In trend $TSLA Cyber Thursday $AAPL High Handle? $MA Micro Base $V New High $MSTR Basing $COIN Support at the 8EMA $AER Breaking out of a flag $TOL Base $LEN Base $TPH Flag $UEC Great volume $STLD Breakout $RS Has Good RS. Watch $276 $CLF Watch 17.50 $X Trending
  • Francoise: @DAN #STOCKS yes please, $LEN, $ZS, $ROKU
  • debeers: ...
    -$LEN reports tomorrow and yes you want to be in it-solid fins and they make their nut
    $ARDX/$LLY- both will be down today IMO suck it up and stick with these 2-they'll be down today but the need is great for these 2 soyou'll be happy
    $AMZN-see abov ...
  • debeers: $LEN=wrong so gone.
  • woodman: @debeers $LEN - Yeah, similar for me with BZH.
  • debeers: ...
    $LEN-i'm in good co with this one and if there is a recovery in housing, this one might be even better than $DHI IMO.
    Uncle Warren has both of them in Berkshire.
    $ELF-every time i've thought that they peaked, they make an acquisition or get an influ ...
  • woodman: @BarryC $DHI #FWIW - Uncle Warren loaded up on $DHI $LEN and $NVR on Tuesday. https://fortune.com/2023/08/15/housing-market-warren-buffett-loads-up-on-homebuilder-stocks-dr-horton-lennar-nvr/
  • BarryC: @woodman $DHI $LEN $NVR #FWIW I'd be a complete moron to say Warren Buffet was wrong, lol.... "for me" I just tend to be a contrarian and that kinda fits my thesis that they may need a break. EVERYONE buying the Warren Buffet news = WRONG trade, IMO. Also EVERYTHING has been coming in and I don't suspect the housing stocks can stay this strong after the move they've had, yesterday 30 year mortgage rates hit 8% yesterday for whatever thats worth. BUTTTTT at the end of the day, I just use the charts like @Dan taught me. :-)
  • woodman: @BarryC $DHI $LEN $NVR #FWIW - Yeah, that's why I said you and Warren may both be right - short term vs. long term. He's a long term guy. I am still holding my $HOV, which I've been holding for some time. It's been very good. Is the party over? I don't know. Right now HOV and the others are on the 50 day (and HOV is also right at $100 area), perhaps teetering, but I will give HOV more time to show its cards. I have a lot of profit in this, so I can afford not to panic and to give it a little more time.
  • woodman: @woodman @BarryC $DHI $LEN $NVR $HOV #FWIW - And with all that said, my first stop in $HOV has been hit.
  • woodman: @woodman @BarryC - $DHI $LEN $NVR $HOV #FWIW - Second stop hit as well this morning. I'm out completely.
  • DavidG: $XHB $LEN $PHM Ugly day for the homebuilders.
  • DougL: @DavidG $XHB $LEN $PHM - $ITB, $TOL, $DHI, $BLDR et al
  • bigbartabs: @DavidG $XHB $LEN $PHM ... a pretty ugly day all the way around.
  • DAN: ...
    $LEN -- 50-day MA holding
    $DHI -- “From here?”
    $TOL -- Pinching.

    $CRS -- Good trend. One to watch.
    $TSLA -- Cheaper cars, cheaper stock.
    $DKNG -- Down
    $SHAK -- Down. Shake Slack
    $LULU -- Holding it’s own.
    $MNST -- Consolidation
    ...
  • mopick: $LEN below the 50, out. so much for the homebuliders.
  • scottrades: ...
    Homebuilders $XHB are still holding up fine. Watch $PHM $TOL $KBH $LEN and others. $OC and $BLDR are in consolidation.

    So there are a few things to watch into the end of the week, though I’m not in a big rush to put money to work without a ...
  • wineinquirer: $LEN $TOL MHO MTH BZH $PHM Been watching these for some time with np as of yet. They all have similar long term cups and handles (give or take) but using measured move from base to breakout to estimate tgt uncovers that many have already made significant progress toward tgts. The two that still look attractive for gains seem to be $LE N & $TOL. Both are not too far above the breakout and thus have more potential for gains. May take an entry (or two) small today as home building sector still strong (from a technical pattern standpoint) as inventory still is tight. In my area (Marana, Az), home builders (some public, some private) have been building non-stop since prior to COVID. Lots for 150-250 new homes seem to sprout like new grass all around us.
  • scottrades: My video notes: COTD: $FSLY was up on an ugly day $SPY Weekly Red Bar $QQQ Weekly Red Bar $UUP Pullback Bounce $TNX New High, Then a Pullback $GLD Stopped at the 50 Day $IWM Weekly Red $SMH Holding the 50 Day $DBC Above all the Daily MAs $URA Trend is fine $OIH Still above the MAs $ARKK Coming to the 50 Day $GBTC Not terrible. $MSFT Dan’s Warning Stock $GOOGL Not a good look $AMZN Watch for a Gap Fill $AAPL Gone Moldy $COIN Channel $MARA At Support $RIOT Needs help $FTNT Back to the Gap $KBH Still fine $LEN Up today $PHM Holding the 21 EMA $MHO Flag $TOL Holding the 50 Day $LSCC Still ok
  • debeers: $LEN-Beckwith retiring. His 2nd in command has been with the co for 20 years. No change to co philosophy here or continuity either.
  • Henry: UNH 2% better than expected earnings up 3.5% in pm Ray Jay thinks $LEN and $TOL can tack on another $20
  • debeers: $LEN-adding this one as well.
  • pbwoody: $LEN had a backtest of a breakout with a good bounce today. Clear support at $119.60
  • Mikev200: $XHB HOD monthly BO on $TOL $DHI $LEN $PHM
  • woodman: Homebuilders hanging in there pretty well. continues. $ITB $TOL $LEN $PHM $HOV $KBH $MTH $MHO and others.
  • debeers: There's no place like home and i had $LEN and now have $TOL and $DHI however, if you only wantg 2, IMO get the 2 that do not miss on earnings: $TOL and $LEN. $TSLA is now the charging station for Rivian as well and not letting go of $ARDX which, in all probaqbility has e3nough cash now to propel even more scrips and approvals or so the kidney expert here says and yes i do believe him and its the only biotech i need.$NVDA still have some but have pared it back a bit.
  • debeers: @debeers $LEN $TOL $DHI $TSLA $ARDX $NVDA -meant to say scripts-geez!-and my expert is @Woodman.
  • DavidK: @debeers $LEN $TOL $DHI $TSLA $ARDX $NVDA side note . DR HORTON bought or partnered with St Joe Company in Windmark Beach Hwy 98 pan handle of Fl . This development originally were million $$ lots and multi million homes . At Joe then screwed original home owners and sold / partnered with Horton to put in cookie cutter 400-450 k homes stacked on top of each other that look like a double wide trailer . It’s at the beach so these snowbirds are buying them up . Horton stated another mass build of cookie cutter homes outside Atl in a great old southern town known for their old beautiful homes . building these homes in a swamp area . Not sure how they got it approved. Point is they bought this land and have to build . Betting that they can sell all these pos
  • debeers: @DavidK $LEN $TOL $DHI $TSLA $ARDX $NVDA @DavidK-lennar took full advantageof its situation as well they should.
  • debeers: @DAN-$FCX/$NVDA/$STLD/$TSLA/$PANW and $LEN at close for earnings in pretio veritas!
  • debeers: $LEN-Earnings tonight and conf call tomorrow at 11 am eastern time. Estimates 2.42 hi/ 2.32 average/ 2.16 low with revenues coming in at 7.2B decrease of 14.11 from same Q last year.
  • debeers: $LEN-when it was announced mthat Powell planned on increasing rates, sold $LEN. Probably a good thing as revenues fell.
  • debeers: @debeers $LEN -and wrong $LEN actually up a skosh.
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