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- Lou: Adding to my massively oversized (relative to my portfolio) $ET RHRN with the expectation that a modest increase of the quarterly distribution will be announced in the next few days, following in step with today's announcement by $EPD. As I always post when I mention $ET and $EPD - these MLPs are NOT SUITABLE for tax deferred accounts, such as IRA., 401 etc. -
- Lou: Happy New Year all - For years, on the last day of trading, I've made a buy based on my perception (is it guess?) of something that I believe will perform well next year. Generally, it's been a stock in which I already had a position. This year it won't be different. I am now trying to decide on today's buy. The candidates are $ET $EPD $DBRG $FTI. I will post my decision as soon as I enter the order.
- Lou: @Lou $ET $EPD $DBRG $FTI - as tempted as I was to buy more of all four, because it is a smaller position of mine than the other three, I added to $ARDX.
- jonwest88: @Lou $ET $EPD $DBRG $FTI $ARDX I chose months ago and added a few times to $ET, still paying over 9% too. For exploration investment still have a small profitable position in $FANG.
- Lou: @jonwest88 $ET $EPD $DBRG $FTI $ARDX $FANG - good choice - $ET is such an oversized position for me that I can't add any more. It's what I call my "one decision investment.'" Because distributions reduce one's basis (they're treated for the most part as return of capital), on sale they are gains, and on top of that there would be significant depreciation recapture, the tax bite on sale would eat away much of any gain. At my age, and with the great tax deferred cash flow, I'm determined to hold $ET (and $EPD) for my estate. At that time, under current tax laws, there would be a step-up in basis and my heirs would be able to sell without tax consequences. That said, I think that it's still a great buy, even today.
- Lou: Left for a while and don't detect any significant change other than some executions: STO $EPD puts at 27 and 30 for 1/24; added to $PDSB and $INZY. Fidelity was working for me while I worked out. Probably done until next week. Enjoy Thanksgiving all.
- woodman: @Lou $EPD $PDSB $INZY - I added to $PDSB too today, also to $EFTR. I have $MREO in my sights for an add, likely tomorrow. Have a nice Thanksgiving.
- champ: @Lou $KMI $ET $EPD #construction #many-projects #large-list .....Unlike you, I'm a #trader off of Charts...and on this stock, this is #Day-4 off of the most recent #double-bottom....so I'm up nicely already because I had Entry-timing........ and now we will see where this goes in the next few weeks and months and if the Markets turn lower again.....I will for sure take #profits again...... ....every time I post on this stock, you always post the same thing to me.... however I #understand, that you hold your stocks a long time through bad markets and I don't..... ....for me I always try to capitalized off of the drops....... and good Luck to you also.
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champ: @Lou $KMI $ET $EPD #construction #many-projects #large-list ....Lou ...I just want to point out to you again, that I'm a professional-trader, been doing this for over 45 years.....and you were a full-time Attorney.....
....and I was a full-time Stock ... - Lou: @champ $KMI #construction #many-projects #large-list - Good luck with the $KMI - I love pipeline companies but, in spite of the K-1s, my faves are two MLPs, $ET (now a relatively gigantic position in my portfolio) and a full position in $EPD. To me. because of tax considerations, they are one-decision investments that will be sold by my/my wife's executors when each of us dies and the estates can get a step-up in basis. I also own a ton of long date calls in both and short puts in $EPD. My bottom line on $KMI is that I wish you well in your investment but that's one in which I have no confidence and wouldn't touch in any timeframe.
- mopick: $ET, reportedly big option trades in advance of their earnings next week leaning heavily bearish. Have a relatively small posiiton in this as I prefer $EPD. I've owned $ET in the past but have always been a bit leery of management due to their past discretions.
- Lou: @mopick $ET $EPD - I'm very long $ET and have a full position in $EPD. To me, at this time, the units are #OneDecision investments. You buy and hold forever because selling them involves all sorts of unhappy tax consequences. Their #options are decent trading vehicles, but the MLP units won't be sold until, at death, the estate takes a step-up in basis and sells the holding. Despite the history screw-ups, I have total confidence in current $ET management and expect to continue to enjoy the generous tax deferred or advantaged (capital gain if out of basis), ever increasing distributions. The pipeline assets and other infrastructure are impossible to duplicate and are critically important to the energy security of our country.
- Lou: While today they are not the flavors of the day, I'm handcuffed to very large positions in my two MLPs - $ET and $EPD. Very large distributions well covered and were I to sell in my lifetime I'd needlessly pay lots of taxes.
- mopick: $EPD, new high. Long-term hold for me. $ET, back in, got an upgrade from RBC, $18 price target. $EPD is my go-to in this space, however.
- Lou: @mopick $EPD $ET - love them both - I have very substantial $ET position and good sized in $EPD. I think that RHRN $ET is a much better buy as it has a higher yield and better upside.
- Lou: @MongosPawn $FTI - you're welcome, but I'd be adding RHRN. Same with $ET and $EPD.
- Lou: Started $META and $GOOGL per ATL and added to $EPD (per myself - I eat my own cooking). The $EPD is via short puts.
- jarmstr278: @Lou $ET $EPD #StepUpInBasis I agree both are great positions.
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Lou: While @AndStars and @indigo1948 have posted good stuff in response to my $ET $EPD post yesterday, here’s my take:
When I invest in marketable securities I look for those that I believe will significantly increase in value and/or will provide me ... - Lou: PS to my post about $ET and $EPD - these investments are not suitable for IRAs, Roths and other tax deferred accounts!
- Lou: There has been much discussion on both the SMM and OMM boards about generating cash flow. I've been using two MLPs to generate a significant tax-deferred return for many years. The ones I use are $ET and $EPD. I'm happy to elaborate with a longer post if there exists an interest in this topic.
- indigo1948: @Lou $ET $EPD - both of these have been long term holds for me Lou - great dividend generating machines but patience is required with these issues. I would be interested to hear about the tax-deferred aspect.
- farview: @Lou $ET $EPD Lou as you and others have stated MLPs with their K1s are not suitable for most retirement accounts. Do you or others have any favorite ETFs in the space since they do not generate K1s?
- vscottg: @Lou $ET $EPD Yes, would be glad to hear more on your approach. Thanks for all of your comments.
- sincity45: @vscottg $ET $EPD I’ll second that.
- AndStars: @Lou $ET $EPD Thanks, Lou! I'm interested. (There's a few folks that posted over on OMM that are interested, too.)
- Lou: Added to $EPD
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AndStars: @Lou #ELPs $ET $EPD
Looking forward to your post, @Lou. I appreciate your experience with these investment instruments very much.
Before you post, I'll give a summary of my understanding of ELPs and how they may offer tax advantages to those seekin ... - Mounty: @Lou I have been using $EPD for years. I have a nice gain as well as an 8% distribution while I hold. My company was bought out a few years ago by $ET. The MLP world has been pretty good for me inspite of waiting for K-1's for tax purposes.
- mopick: $ET/$EPD, pipeline companies doing well! $ET, new high, $EPD, almost there as well! What's not to like? Price appreciation plus dividends of over 7%.
- Lou: @mopick $ET $EPD and, IMO, $ET is still cheap. It is by far my largest holding and IMO likely to get to 17-19 in fairly short order. $ET restored its distribution to pre-cut levels and is pledged to continue distribution increases on a quarterly basis. Current yield is almost 9%, tax deferred. CAVEAT - NOT SUITABLE for tax deferred accounts such as IRAs.
- scottrades: Some earnings to be aware of next week: $AAPL $SOFI $AMD $NCLH $UBER $SHOP $PFE $F $ON $AMC $SQ $CVS $YUM $ANET $QCOM $COIN $DKNG $ALB $CHKP $BP $BUD $DDOG $MRNA $ET $RCL $SEDG $ACMR $SMCI $MELI $GPN $SBUX $CNA $MGM $MAR $WBD $RIG $PK $MPC $FANG $EPD $NVO $PTON $STNG $FUBO $LNG $AMG $CAR $WEC $LYFT $LUMN
- champ: Pipeline companies to look at....$PAA PAGP $EP $EPD $KMI...and then decide which ones to trade or hold.
- champ: @champ $PAA $PAGP $EP $EPD $KMI......
- Lou: @champ $PAA $PAGP $EP $EPD $KMI _ totally agree with you as to the ones you identified. Nice job #champ.
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Lou: ...
As an old guy who is a US citizen and taxpayer, I love the MLPs like $ET and $EPD. The rich distribution is tax deferred, the pipeline contracts are with credit worthy major companies, with firm pricing on a "use it or lose it basis," and ... - Lou: @Lou $PAA $PAGP $ET $EDP #raised #News #before #Set-up #Fill-up #Pre-earning. Typo below - not EDP it's $EPD.
- mopick: $EPD, approaching new high at last! 7% kicker as well.
- mariner: @DAN So what is the likely impact on the market price of pipeline companies? Long $WMB, $ENB, & $EPD
- DAN: @mariner $WMB $ENB $EPD I don't know whether it will impact them at all. Charts are brutal and there's no indication that the market is even thinking about them. Business is bad for oil/gas pipeline companies. Nothing being built over here, that's for sure.
- mariner: @DAN $WMB $ENB $EPD Thanks for getting back to me on this!
- champ: @SusanW $PAA $KMI #News #guided #Yield-Stock......Could also watch ..$ET $EPD $WMB...I have NP's in these, however they more or less trade the same way, could park all of the pipeline companies next to each other...to see how traders re-act, daily. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
- Explorer: Energy Transports / Pipelines -- $WMB $OKE $EPD $TRP $KMI $ENB -- $KMI & $ENB above all Moving Averages
- mopick: $EPD, reclaimed 50 dma. Up almost 19% ytd, 7.5% yield. In from below.
- issues: @Explorer $WMB $OKE $EPD $TRP $KMI $ENB $OKE has earnings on the 29th. I will wait for that.
- mopick: @champ $PAA $USB, am in $EPD, also secured UBS upgrade to $33.00. A little less yield but has been a superior performer.
- champ: @mopick $PAA $USB $EPD...Yes sir...thats nice and #Now it is time for $PAA to outperform...and thats called #Entry-Timing, off of positive #News and this is exactly how profits are made. LOL.
- traderbren: #Weeklies - just some potential Weekly set ups that are worth keeping an eye on: $XEL, $NOC, $SO, $AMGN, $LLY, $CNC, $EPD, $WES
- Pokersmith: @traderbren $XEL $NOC $SO $AMGN $LLY $CNC $EPD $WES #Weeklies Nice work, thx
- Docoof: @scottrades @pokersmith $KMI $AMLP This is one to watch too: $EPD
- champ: @Docoof $KMI $AMLP and $EPD is up 1.57% as of RHRN at $26.48.
- mopick: @champ $KMI $ET $PAA #Investment-positions, don't forget $EPD, own this one.
- mariner: @mopick $KMI $ET $PAA $EPD #Investment-positions $OKE, $ENB, $WMB. Three more pipeline companies to keep an eye on
- mopick: $EPD, NH, pipeline, 6.5%+ yield as well.
- Lou: @mopick $EPD also $ET NH and likely to increase distribution in earnings call on 5/4.
- mopick: @bRobert, between $ET, $EPD & $KMI, which one to you looks best? Thanks!!
- bRobert: @mopick $ET $EPD $KMI Technically they are all very similar and should work well Look for any fundamental reason to favor one Ask around the board
- mopick: @champ $PAA $PAGP $KMI #PipeLine, wondering which one to buy, $KMI, $EPD, or $ET.
- champ: @mopick $PAA $PAGP $KMI $EPD $ET #PipeLine .... $KMI is my largest position but maybe take a position in all 3,...with equal $$$ in each....and which one will be reporting their earnings first...because that will bounce all the other pipeline companies. ~~~ Could #Park $$$/Cash in all of the Pipeline companies because they are better than any Bank.
- Wolf: @cmaxwel1 $NLY $AGNC $ARI $CLM $HRZN $NEWT $NMFC $NRZ $OCSL $OFS $OXSQ $PSEC $TPVG $WHF $BTI $EPD $ET $ETY $HTGC $KMI $LADR $MAIN $MO $SAR #REITs #Yieldhogs $NRZ Raymond Janes raised PT form 13 to 13.50. Up 4%. Goes Ex Div 4/1. Correction $NRZ
- Docoof: $EPD Oil & gas pipeline stock 1-yr high
- cmaxwel1: @BF $NLY $AGNC $ARI $CLM $HRZN $NEWT $NMFC $NRZ $OCSL $OFS $OXSQ $PSEC $TPVG $WHF $BTI $EPD $ET $ETY $HTGC $KMI $LADR $MAIN $MO $SAR #REITs #Yieldhogs (I have $KMI also, that is a winner too!)
- BF: @AndStars $NLY $AGNC #REITs #Yieldhogs My income portfolio >8% hogs $ARI, $CLM, $HRZN, $NEWT, $NLY, $NMFC, $NRZ, $OCSL, $OFS, $OXSQ, $PSEC, $TPVG, $WHF. The 6-8ish% $BTI, $EPD, $ET, $ETY, $HTGC, $KMI, $LADR, $MAIN, $MO, $SAR, $PAA, $BXMT Some are providing entries
- Lou: @AndStars @Henry $ET $EPD $CODI #OT #K-1 #Taxes #RetirementAccounts - I agree with @Henry's post. Several years ago, I had $ET in an IRA and I realized the potential issues with UBTI taxes. While the tax returns my broker filed for the IRA carried f ...
- AndStars: @Henry $ET $EPD $CODI #OT #K-1 #Taxes #RetirementAccounts Thanks @Henry, yes. I appreciate your experience and your knowledge. I'm new to this. (Who would think a retirement account could be taxed before distribution???) I am watching this very closely and will report back to our friends here at SMM/OMM as to my situation. I didn't invest heavily in any of these names, but I know others may have, and we all have an interest in this. I consider this a huge government overreach nipping at the heals of our retirement accounts. Coolidge had it right. Forgotten hero. Nobody is following his lead. Spend, spend, spend leads to tax, tax, tax. Consider what you are buying with your tax dollars. Consider who you vote for.
- AndStars: @Lou $ET $EPD $CODI #OT #K-1 #Taxes #RetirementAccounts #IRA Thanks @Lou, always appreciate you posts! This is an area I never imagined, but clearly it's something some of us need to pay attention to. Even without a tax bite, the paperwork burden is worth taking note of. Sounds like you've learned to get the best from both worlds, taking advantage of good MLPs in taxable accounts, and avoiding the pain of holding them in tax deferred (retirement and HSA accounts). Best to you!
- Henry: @AndStars #OT #K-1 #Taxes #RetirementAccounts $ET $EPD It doesn't take 100's of thousands of income to surpass the $1000 limit. In my case it was $CODI which converted last year into a C corp to do away with that problem. This was several years ago and the broker filed the appropriate tax form for the IRA and paid the 15% tax out of the IRA Oil LP's generated K1's and $ET Is notoriously late in sending out it's K1 I have never filled taxes or tax forms in states other than where I resided.
- scottrades: Some #earnings for the week $AMD $AMZN $FB $PYPL $F $GOOGL $XOM $UPS $SNAP $GM $NOK $QCOM $SBUX $PINS $ATVI $ABBV $OTIS $LHX $TT $NXPI $EPD $PENN $U $SPOT $MRK $GILD $COP $FFWM $AKTS $EA $PHM $DHI $MTCH $LSPD $BMY $SU $TMO $WM $AGNC $FTNT $ARCB $MPC $FSBC
- traderbren: $CLR - will pop the top this morning. Keep an eye on: $TS, $WMB, $PDCE, $EPD, $MTDR, $MOS
- Pokersmith: 24.75 b.p ...see : $EPD
- Lou: @Pokersmith $EPD Great MLP but RHRN $ET outperforming - up about double the percentage. I posted earlier in the week that it would likely raise the distribution, among other good news. Just announced that board is considering a q increase from .153 to .175. More good things to come when earnings are announced on 2/1.
- Pokersmith: @Lou $EPD $ET Will take it under consideration, thanks !
- mopick: @Pokersmith $DVN $AMLP, yes, thanks!! I do have small amount of $EPD. BTW, you still holding $LLY?
- mopick: @champ $KMI #Kinder-Morgan #Parking-Cash, I'm in $EPD, doing well also.
- Pokersmith: @mopick $KMI $EPD #Kinder-Morgan #Parking-Cash I mean...just look at the div kicker of AMLP ! that is....if you like div kickers. NOT that EPD is anything to sneeze at.
- champ: @mopick $KMI $EPD #Kinder-Morgan #Parking-Cash--- Yes...most all the Toll-Roads are doing OK, they are #OutPerforming...and they should continue...because this is their #Type-of-Market, for sure.
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Lou: ...
(My Edit - Gross mentions $EPD $ET $SHLX - I'm very long $ET)
Bill Gross--The most glaring observation I have is that in the face of 6%+ inflation and consumer expectations for at least 3% over the next five years, that the 10-year Treasury remain ... - scottrades: Some #earnings for the week: $SQ $PFE $ROKU $MRNA $PINS $ON $DKNG $UBER $COIN $APPS $QCOM $CRSR $PENN $SKLZ $PCG $CVS $TRVG $CRNT $ABNB $ATVI $MRO $MELI $DVN $FANG $BP $PTON $CGC $VIAC $AMG $FSLY $UAA $EPD $ET $NET $AKTS $ZG $GNRC $ALX $CNA $TMUS $SKC $RIG
- lostsheep: #oil has quietly turned green as so many oil and oil related stocks have had weekly reversals while it was in the red $eog $cop $xom $mpc $dvn oxy $kmi $epd $mro
- NickSingh: @lostsheep $eog $cop $xom $mpc $dvn $kmi $epd $mro #oil $OIH $PXD
- james056: @Ben $NLY $T $MMP $PAA $STWD $MPW $EPD @ 7.76% dividend. However, it's been trending down lately and got knocked into ugly yesterday. Careful with $T. No one knows what they are going to drop the dividend to. Speculation is a 50% cut.
- DAN: We were stopped out of $EPD at 24.65. Glad I raised that stop so we could lock in a small profit (3.6%). Not a lot at all, but better than a loss. Dan
- Lou: While I understand the drop in the Energy stocks on a day like today, I believe that the pipeline companies, such as $EPD $KMI and $ET are being unfairly dragged down. They transport and service energy product at fixed quantities and prices and are not dependent on the price of the commodities as oil and gas. Disclosure - I'm long $ET and holding fast.
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DAN: ...
Closed $EPD and $PAA
$NVDA - 700.00 basis. 685 stop.
$YELP - Status quo.
$CRWD - 227.70 basis. 219 new stop.
$ZM - Basis: 345.48. New stop is $350
$AAPL - 129.46 basis. Stop: 125.80
$SMPL - 36.30 basis. Stop 33.90
$ENPH - $162.25 basis. Stop 1 ... - DAN: Active Trade List Update $SMPL -- New stock. Breakout on above-average volume. $CRWD - Really good price action over the last 5 days. $YELP -- Stabilizing at $40. This is a stabilization after a Phase 2 pullback. $ZM -- Little flag pattern, with support at $350 $EPD -- Still going. $AAPL -- Not going to be a market outperformer, but it’s a relatively “safe” stock to own. $NVDA -- Consolidating after the late-May breakout. $IBB -- Up just a bit today after almost being stopped out yesterday. $PAA -- Stabilizing at $12 bucks in a very impressive runup. $NLY - 4-day pullback looks like it’s complete. Still moving well and I’m just sticking with it. No reason to sell $NLY. It’s an ATM machine. Dan
- bugpack28: @DAN $SMPL $CRWD $YELP $ZM $EPD $AAPL $NVDA $IBB $PAA $NLY Thank you for the update!!!
- DAN: @bugpack28 $SMPL $CRWD $YELP $ZM $EPD $AAPL $NVDA $IBB $PAA $NLY De nada. ;-)
- cmaxwel1: @DAN $SMPL $CRWD $YELP $ZM $EPD $AAPL $NVDA $IBB $PAA $NLY $NLY added back
- DAN: The Fed announced their latest prognostication of hiking rates twice by the end of 2023. Sooooo....we now understand that Fed is able to see just 2-1/2 years into the future. That's really comforting to know. At least the market thinks so. The S& ...
- Nick singh: @DAN $PAA $SMPL $CRWD $YELP $ZM $EPD $AAPL $NVDA $IBB great mid day comforting analysis on this kinda crucial day. And yes 2% can really matter when it amounts to $50K = your account lol. Thanks
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DAN: ...
$EPD -- All good.
$AAPL -- All good
$NVDA -- $700 support looks like the deal.
$IBB -- Stopped out today.
$NLY -- ATM continues.
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$BAX - Is there any way to research why a stock like BAX had a key reversal day last Friday June 11th ... - DAN: Raising the stop on $EPD to $24.65 to lock in profits as a worst-case scenario (basis is 23.80). --Dan
- DAN: My Notes: SS 061521 $SPY -- No change in trends. Just a slow day. $EPD -- Raising the stop on $EPD to $24.65 to lock in profits as a worst-case scenario (basis is 23.80). $IBB -- Stop at 158.80. Almost stopped today. $LAZY -- Mentioned this yesterday. Strong move today. $GNRC -- Coming out of a multi-month base. I would consider buying on any kind of pullback. $GME -- VERY convincing support at $45. $FLL -- pullback to 50-day MA. Give it room -- 50-day MA, or Friday’s low. $ENVA -- Watch how this moves. Will it hold $35? This is a low entry on a probable cup & handle. $PLTR -- joining Russel 3000 (@kbrowe) $SNOW -- joining the Russell 3000 $X -- Buying opportunity here? $ZEUS -- Steep drop. Testing the 50-day MA
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DAN: ...
$EPD - 23.80 entry. 7% gain.
$YELP -- Phase 2 complete?
$CLF -- Still going. Up 22%
$ZM -- working really well. Entry 345.50. Raise the stop to 338, which locks in a 2% risk.
$GNRC -- Only you can prevent forest fires. Oh, forget it. Just bu ... - DAN: Good morning. Futures are pretty flat this morning. The issue of inflation has been a big issue for quite some time. I have been pointing out the strong trend in the Commodities Research Bureau Index (ETF - $DBC). Since its last breakout in Nove ...
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DAN: Good morning. Futures are flat today, though I am seeing some promise in the market. Or, as a friend of mine said in a conversation last night, "The market looks like it's gettin' ready to get good."
Seeing a lot of setups, as noted in l ... -
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$EPD -- Stop at 22.65. Alert $22.65
$NVDA -- Holding up ok.
$YELP -- Phase 2, or a failure? Tomorrow or Friday will tell.
$CLF -- In at 20.10. Consider raising your stop on $CLF to 20.10. Our entry on $CLF was 20.10 just yesterday. The stock is ... - champ: @Lou $PAA $UBS $PAGP $KMI $ET #Top-Pick-List --- Thanks but I was just in $ET and I had a few posts, I like $ET, but they are setting-up a protest now. ....I was also in $KMI and $EPD and had positions in all 3 of these but I took profits, only holding $PAA, as an investment position now.
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DAN: ...
$EPD -- Up about 4% here. It’s working. Leave it alone.
$NVDA -- Careful with $NVDA. June 21st is when the 4:1 split happens, but won’t start trading until July 20th..
$GME -- From this morning: “GameStop ($GME) is pushing agains ... -
DAN: G'morning. I typically am off the grid on Fridays so that I can focus on my research. But just thought I'd mention a few things this morning.
First, I'm going to close out $SRCL this morning. Current price is 77.51, with our cost basis at 74.50. ...
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