ProShares UltraShort Bloomberg Natural Gas -2x Shares (:KOLD)
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Make a Forum Post Become a member to view recent forum posts. Already a member? Sign in here.- RichardinME: $BOIL Been a while since I traded this and $KOLD. Was not very successful on either side of the trade. My question or observation is if you're bullish on NAT gas, would it not make more sense to short $KOLD and vice versa? With these leveraged ETF's they always end up going down do to rolling out of futures contracts. If you look at a chart of either, the amount of money lost is astronomical but if you're short then the contango/decay and expense ratios all work to your advantage when it comes time to hopefully cover at a lower price. Again. I traded both a long time ago and lost a lot of money so I'm asking more than advising:)
- champ: @RichardinME $BOIL $KOLD.....#Good question, however the easy answer might be.....that everything that we do is all about timing....and Entry-timings near the Nat-gas low/bottom would probably be the best entry, if your bullish on Nat-gas, off of aro ...
- RichardinME: @champ $BOIL $KOLD #Good #play I did not just mean $BOIL AND $KOLD. $UVXY, $NUGT and does of other leveraged ttf;s. They may work good for a short-term trade but in the end if you look at a 5 plus year chart of these and dozens of other suspects they all come down. Provided you don't get wiped out on a short covering
- champ: @RichardinME $BOIL $KOLD $UVXY $NUGT #Good #play......Yes sir.... I understand but for me, even 30 is long term...so I don't get concerned about these type of ETF's...and I day-trade all of the EFT's, with mostly only small swings and I already took ...
- bigbartabs: @chrisbman360 $B0IL $KOLD $BOIL ... If not already, I would use $UNG to trigger any $BOIL buys and sells. Many 3x ETFs don't correlate well with their 1x equivalent... therefore I always use 1x ETFs to trigger their 3x pair. Think of it as the 1x ETFs are the dog, that wag their 3x ETF tail. Not the other way around. Hopefully all that makes sense... FWIW, good luck.
- chrisbman360: @bigbartabs $B0IL $KOLD $BOIL $UNG Thanks, makes sense. I'm out of Nat Gas for now but watching it. The 3x ETFs are not for the faint of heart for sure.
- chrisbman360: @bigbartabs $B0IL can be such a frustrating stock. I've made a lot and lost a lot on that crazy stock. I was having fun flipping between $KOLD (inverse) and $BOIL during early Russian war doing swing trades. You would think nat gas would be strong going into Winter but it is so unpredictable. Like a roulette table.
- traderbren: $BOIL $KOLD - significant moves today. NP
- traderbren: $KOLD - may head south to close the gap at 68.82. - but might result in a bid on $BOIL. NP in either.
- Jazman0013: @bigbartabs $UNG $BOIL about time. $KOLD was gold while Natty stunk.
- Jazman0013: Stops hit. I was too tight. $KOLD a winner but the position was small. $HTZ and $PSEC doing decent. What was left in $BOIL is done aside from a placeholder. Damage minimal. Mostly cash… good thing.
- traderbren: $KOLD - nice move in $KOLD as $BOIL trades down to test the 50d.
- rjw225: Anybody in $KOLD?
- Iceman: $KOLD #ShortPuts - Sold KOLD Mar 18 2016 180 Puts @ 2.20. These expire Friday
- Iceman: $KOLD #Shortcalls - Bought to close 1 KOLD Feb 19 2016 320.0 Call @ 0.05. Originally sold on 12/17/2015 @ 13.0 It's amazing how much margin this released but I'm letting the reminder of my KOLD calls expire tomorrow.
- Iceman: $KOLD #ShortCalls - Bought to close 1 KOLD Feb 19 2016 320.0 Call @ 0.05. Partial fill on a larger open order. Originally sold on 12/17/2015 @ 11.38
- Iceman: $KOLD #ShortCalls - Sold KOLD May 20 2016 320 Calls @ $6.60. Sure glad I covered what short calls I did last week.
- Iceman: $KOLD #ShortCalls - since I can't seem to get any Put orders to execute in the very illiquid market for this stock, I'm covering some of the Call positions on this downdraft. Getting rid of the long term positions while holding on to the Feb options which I think will expire. Bought to close 1 KOLD May 20 2016 200.0 Call @ 10.60. Originally sold 11/23/2015 at 18.0 Bought to close 2 KOLD Aug 19 2016 265.0 Calls @ 8.00. Originally sold at 9.00 and again at 12.00 two weeks ago.
- Iceman: $KOLD #ShortPuts - Sold 1 KOLD Feb 19 2016 115 Put @ 2.15. Paired with an existing short 215 Call for February, completing the strangle. Both expire in 3 weeks.
- rck89: $KOLD @Dr. Science How would you trade $KOLD rhrn? Nat gas prices are still flat to down, IMHO. But nat gas companies seem to be ok. So what to do/ Thanks.
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DrScience: @rck89 $KOLD I don't follow the cultural or social history of their cross-border neighbor, Nat-gassia (their flag: $UNG), but I'll offer this while you comb the research...
I know that the indigenous inhabitants of $UNG are more likely to feed the ... - rck89: @DrScience $KOLD $UNG $KOL I like your metaphoric language use....you've missed your calling! But aside from our economic slow down and the slow change from coal, Nat-Gassia's biggest product has also suffered from warmer-than-normal weather in most parts of the US, its biggest market! And weather is still the most important determinant of nat gas prices. So $KOLD should countinue strong. Therefore, I'll keep selling OTM puts! Thanks, Doc!
- Iceman: $KOLD #ShortCalls - Bought to close 1 KOLD Jan 15 2016 215.0 Call @ 0.05. Sold at 4.30 $DD #ShortPuts - Bought to close 1 DD Jan 15 2016 50.0 Put @ 0.01. Sold at 1.20 $APA #ShortPuts - Bought to close 1 APA Jan 15 2016 37.5 Put @ 1.00 to avoid possible assignment tomorrow. Sold at 1.25
- Iceman: $KOLD #ShortCalls - started covering this position. Bought to close 1 KOLD Feb 19 2016 136.0 Call @ 18 . Small gain as this was the one I sold for the lowest premium. Sold a bunch of KOLD Jan 15 2016 162.0 Calls @ 2.10 to replace this position. The strike price is outside the 5 day trading range for the stock, and balances out some short January Puts that are now closer to being in the money.
- Iceman: $KOLD #ShortCalls – Bought to close 1 KOLD Feb 19 2016 136.0 Call @ 17. Nicer gain on this (mistake) as I sold it on 10/28/2015 @ 23.10
- Iceman: $KOLD #ShortCalls – undoing another bad trade. Bought to close 1 KOLD Feb 19 2016 140.0 Call @ 18.0. Originally sold @ 25.40 on 11/20/2015, so I made money anyway. Added short calls to replace this one in the last few days: Sold KOLD May 20 2016 230.0 Calls @ 12.10 Sold KOLD Feb 19 2016 320.0 Calls @ 1.14
- Iceman: $KOLD #ShortPuts - Sold 1 KOLD JAN 15 2016 110.0 Put @ 1.65. New Jan Strike prices all the way down to 70
- Iceman: $KOLD #ShortCalls - Bought to close 1 KOLD May 20 2016 140.0 Call @ 27. Undoing a big mistake. Originally sold on 11/20 at 34.40. Patience Pays off again
- Iceman: $KOLD #ShortCalls - Sold KOLD May 20 2016 240.0 Calls @ 10.10. Sold enough to offset the cost of buying back the 1 KOLD May 20 2016 140.0 Call @ 27 plus added 100 points to the strike price.
- mradams0621: Mornin Gapers >$2. >4% 27.83% $NURO NeuroMetrix Inc 2.94 98670 11.99% $BHI Baker Hughes Inc. 51.17 106 10.87% $UGAZ VS 3X NAT GAS 2.55 3690000 8.96% $FXCM FXCM Inc 17.15 45860 7.95% $UWTI VS 3X WTI CRUDE 4.21 1260000 7.38% $GASL Direxion Daily Nat 6.40 8280 6.90% $DNR Denbury Resources 2.17 12190 6.61% $PBY Pep Boys - Manny M 18.56 236450 6.04% $CMRX Chimerix Inc. 7.02 568710 5.73% $BOIL ProShares Ultra Bl 18.82 2760 -19.35% $AVXL Anavex Life Scienc 5.67 292850 -10.36% $DGAZ VS 3X INV NAT GAS 13.06 513780 -8.23% $PSDV pSivida Corp. 4.35 4500 -7.79% $DWTI VS 3X INV WTI CRUDE 190.65 23490 -6.21% $VKTX Viking Therapeutic 4.08 600 -6.09% $KOLD ProShares UltraSho 141.50 2340 -5.14% $ERY Direxion Daily Ene 27.70 185
- Iceman: $KOLD #ShortPuts #NatGas - some of these may be assigned in about 2 1/2 weeks, but since I am short some Feb and May 136/140 calls at big premiums, it's all good. Sold 1 KOLD Jan 15 2016 114.0 Put @ 2.40 Sold 1 KOLD Jan 15 2016 115.0 Put @ 2.30 Sold 1 KOLD Jan 15 2016 116.0 Put @ 3.20 Sold 1 KOLD Jan 15 2016 117.0 Put @ 2.70 Sold 1 KOLD Jan 15 2016 118.0 Put @ 3.90 Sold 1 KOLD Jan 15 2016 119.0 Put @ 4.10 Sold 1 KOLD Jan 15 2016 120.0 Put @ 4.30 Sold 1 KOLD Jan 15 2016 121.0 Put @ 4.70 Sold 1 KOLD Jan 15 2016 122.0 Put @ 4.90 Sold 1 KOLD Jan 15 2016 123.0 Put @ 5.20 Sold 1 KOLD Jan 15 2016 124.0 Put @ 5.50 Sold 1 KOLD Jan 15 2016 125.0 Put @ 5.80 Sold 1 KOLD Jan 15 2016 126.0 Put @ 6.20 Sold 1 KOLD Jan 15 2016 127.0 Put @ 6.60 These are horribly illiquid so sales need to execute on the opening on a big down day, like these did.
- Iceman: $KOLD #ShortPuts - Sold KOLD Jan 15 2016 114.0 Puts @ 1.65. Lowest available Strike Price
- GreenGhost: @msb $UGAZ At this point IMO just a wicked oversold bounce in a commodity that's been down almost every single day for 2 straight months ; see link ; see also $KOLD daily chart ; as to being cold commodity is seasonal to be with market already knows ...
- msb: @GreenGhost $UGAZ $KOLD - No position; just an observation. Thanks for your thoughts.
- GreenGhost: @msb $UGAZ $KOLD Sure market always forward looking ;not based on current weather/ already priced in; BTW storage capacity is quickly running out ; unlike oil can't send overseas and currently no export yet so has domestic supply has to stay domestic and it's close to the brim ; bearish ( vs. expected ) net fill/draw data on weekly release also contributing to downward spiral recently.
- Iceman: $KOLD #ShortCalls - Sold 1 KOLD May 20 2016 320.0 Call @ 23. No trend lasts forever.
- GreenGhost: $KOLD finally sold my shares on this parabolic move at 218 and change today on this inverse levered ETF ; now that's extended ; check out chart https://finviz.com/quote.ashx?t=kold
- OilMan: @GreenGhost $KOLD $DGAZ was thinking about entering DGAZ on the next pull back after today's action
- GreenGhost: @OilMan $KOLD $DGAZ No long = no thanks or short = too much of a press to downside IMO don't short at ATL way too risky ; also too volatile IMO
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mradams0621: ...
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5.20% $BK Bank of New York M 42.89 100
5.15% $SD SandRidge Energy 0.25 25000
4.93% $OLN Olin Corp. 20.00 180
4.33% $YINN Direxion Daily FTS 16.39 5870
3.56% $IMO Imper ... - Iceman: $KOLD #ShortCalls #TopOfTheChain - so.... the top of the chain turned out not to be high enough. But positions are small and far off. Sold 1 KOLD Feb 19 2016 140.0 Call @ 25.40 Sold 1 KOLD May 20 2016 140.0 Call @ 34.40
- Iceman: $KOLD #ShortPuts - Sold KOLD Nov 20 2015 97.0 Puts @ 0.60. Finally got some short puts sold to pair up with my short Nov 136 calls. These expire Friday
- GreenGhost: @tnt $UNG You posted same thing on Wed too and it's got crushed since ; agree wicked oversold and high short interest ; been that way however for years what so special about today ? ; nothing I can see in today's price action so far. Is 2.20 in spot ...
- Iceman: $KOLD #ShortCalls - Sold 1 KOLD Nov 20 2015 136.0 Call @ 14.50 this morning. That brings my November position up to 3 contracts. Since the stock went through the strike price this morning, they should start trading higher strikes on Monday.
- Iceman: $KOLD #ShortCalls - added on this morning and I'm about done with these until there are higher strike prices available - Sold 1 KOLD Feb 19 2016 136.0 Call @ 25.10 Sold 1 KOLD May 20 2016 136.0 Call @ 31.60
- Iceman: $KOLD #ShortCalls - fading the conventional wisdom on Nat Gas but staying small and spreading the risk over many months - Sold 1 KOLD Dec 18 2015 136.0 Call @ 13.60 Sold 1 KOLD Feb 19 2016 136.0 Call @ 18.70 Sold 1 KOLD May 20 2016 136.0 Call @ 24.80
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GreenGhost: $SWN 52 week low $LNG same both down big today; $KOLD 52 week high ; check out recent move in that levered ETF ...whew 52 week and ATL low out of $UGAZ $CHK in basement and very bearish looking chart.
$KOLD ETF technically very bullish as natty ... - GreenGhost: Nat Gas Futures trade via $UGAZ was a bust. I did manage to get out on post release short covering pop with a 3% loss. This ETF is now off 12% on the day and trading near its low after the release noise has settled in. Now that 3 buck spot is busted this commodity should quickly plummet to new 52 week lows which it likely will print today. Next up is 2.90 area which it could trade down to as soon as next week as mild forecast continues. Make no mistake about it, there is an unseasonably mild winter in the mega consumer NE US. At some point this will turn hard but not yet as bearish bets continue to increase. Futures decline on inventory data EIA Natural Gas Inventory: -26 bcf vs. -38 bcf expected, -49 bcf last week. Futures -2.63% to $3.012. ETFs: $UNG, $DGAZ, $UGAZ, $BOIL, $GAZ, $KOLD, $UNL, $DCNG
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GreenGhost: ...
Other ETFs in the Natural Gas mix: $BOIL, $KOLD, $DGAZ. - GreenGhost: $UGAZ After having an quick unusually strong run last week in anticipation of an early season regional deep freeze, this levered ETF reversed hard today and printed a pseudo bearish engulfing candle and was down 6.5%. This is classic buy the rumor / sell the news ( event) behavior. The extreme cold is rolling into the upper mid-west beginning tonight. The price opened down at the open and continued to trade down and closed near the low of the day. It appears today's price action is telegraphing the cold snap trade is over, near term at least. $BOIL and $KOLD are the two other levered and paired ETFs which also track this commodity and of course experienced parallel (but inverse) price action.
- ginny: @jmat2413 thanks. gradually getting my charts and lists back to where they were. appreciate your time. Watching $KOLD $BOIL beginning to get cold weather. BTO dec 30C on Boil today. We shall see. 50% stop for now.
- NapoleonSolo:
- NapoleonSolo: BOIL $KOLD liquidity in these options went poof apparently impacted by new share suspension e.g. May ATM calls ( the 53s) now .50 X 4.90 55s 1.70 X 6 bucks with no new shares now easily available suspect more difficult for option MM to hedge short option position... spreads on $BOIL ETF however narrowing quickly ...still huge ETF pricing discrepancy today performance vs. more liquid UNG - and $KOLD these are not functioning as advertised $KOLD up 90 bps $BOIL it's inverse twin up 350bps both have traded under 10k shares ETFs nor related options IMO untrade-able here unless liquidity returns ...NP in any impacted by new issuance share suspension
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Tricia: ...
Energy ETFs: $UNG, $USO, $OIL, DGAZ, $UCO, UGAZ, $BOIL, $SCO, GAZ, DTO, $DBO, $BNO, $KOLD, $UNL, $IXC, $CRUD, $NAGS, $USL, $IPW, BARL, $UHN, UWTI, $DNO, DWTI, SZO, $GNAT, DCNG, OLO, $IOIL, OLEM, $FILL, $TWTI, $AXEN
Russia and emerging markets ETFs: ... -
Iceman: ...
Nat gas ETFs: $UNG, UGAZ, DGAZ, $BOIL, GAZ, $KOLD, $UNL, $NAGS, DCNG
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