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P.S. Nice to see Deutsche's Alan Ruskin on Bloomberg TV. I tried with might and main to recruit him to $STT when he was looking to leave his then-employer (Was it UBS? Don't remember now), but he ultimately turned us down on the grounds that his wif ... -
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Yeah, I'm a little surprised that in a world beset with issues, $CS is receiving so much ink. It's drawing comparisons to $DB, but it appears to be in better shape - capital strength, etc. - than its German counterpart, and it doesn't face the same ... -
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P.S. My alma mater ($STT) caught a downgrade from Brian Befell at $DB, to "Hold" (that is, "Sell"). PT 67, last price 65.30. -
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Sigh. I still own a smidge of $MS, because I'm confident of the former investment bank's prospects despite the contrary evidence offered by the daily chart. Truth to tell, it has rolled over on the weekly chart, as well. So, just a smidge. However, ... - wanda1616: @Forexpro $MS $DB $BCS $C what next
- Forexpro: @wanda1616 $MS $DB $BCS $C Hey, Wanda1616, Not knowing "what next" makes it more fun, doesn't it? Put clever people in contact with lots of money, and all sorts of shenanigans can ensue. As the best head trader I ever worked with responded on one of the occasions when I complained that one of his monkeys was gaffing one of my (and the bank's) most important clients: "I know he's a weasel! I want weasels working for me!" So I guess the guy was both a monkey and a weasel. So there you have it. I note that $KBE, although highly (0.87) correlated with the $SPX has been outperforming of late to a modest degree. Here's hoping that you're well, and thriving; all the best!
- wanda1616: @Forexpro $MS $DB $BCS $C $KBE $SPX youre so kind. thank you. my ex BF was a bond trader and he used to do hiring. he told me the ONLY answer he wanted in an interview regarding why they wanted the job was : I WANT TO MAKE A LOT OF MONEY. and there is/was no accountability. lower tranches push the envelope for the higher guys and if the boom falls they (the lowers) are disposable...
- Henry: $GOOD 5.8% yield REIT. Their biz is owning warehouse and commercial properties. A high occupancy rate and no deadbeats. The 50 ema has crossed the 200 ema In 2008 they got hosed by $DB which called in their loans, while the Feds bailed out DB. They learned their lesson and are run very conservatively. It doesn't meet yieldhog yield status but is a steady Eddie for an income stock in a long term portfolio. For newbies wondering about ema vs sma Exponential reflects changes quicker than sma. What to use depends on how you like to read your tea leaves.
- jsdpie: $DB up 9.6 percent.
- bRobert: @jsdpie $DB NOT the bottom $8 POTENTIAL with failed bounce WEEKLY M top H&S top Bear flag bounce after a trouncing from $17 - $9+
- champ: @1winkie $AMZN ....this was real time News, that was posted.... per #BriefingTrader this morning at 7:26 AM ET......and then again at 9:28 ET....looks like $DB changed their target price to $4100, this morning....this new News should get out, it just takes time.
- AdrenalineTrade: $DB anyone know what's going on this?
- steve71: @AdrenalineTrade $DB Lots of Russia exposure.
- sgiseller: $CS One of the banks who live to lose money and Let's not forget $DB Credit Suisse wrote a letter to investors this week, asking them to destroy and permanently erase information linking to a securitization of loans financed by yachts, private jets, real estate, and financial assets, three sources whose company received the letter, told The FT. The letter was sent during the week when the US, UK, and the EU issued sanctions against Russia for its invasion of Ukraine, which included sanctioning numerous Russian oligarchs and billionaires.
- Forexpro: Re: $C Hi, Friends, I just skimmed over the article, but I gather that some of $C's derivatives holdings have been determined to require larger capital reserves than were previously thought necessary. In consequence, the bank is halting stock repurchases for a while. If the CFO mentioned for how long, I missed it. This is another very large, complex organization that of late can't seem to get out of its own way. It has had some really colorful snafus, and the regulators are of course now all over it, which makes it that much tougher to re-establish a degree of operational equilibrium. Back in my day, one of the two leading players in FX, along with $DB. $STT was "Top 10", but way behind "Top 2". No position in either $C or (you're kidding, right?) $DB. Nor in $STT, for that matter. All the best!
- Pokersmith: @Forexpro $C $DB $STT That IS bad news...therefore, should rally 100 points from here
- Forexpro: @Pokersmith $C $DB $STT LOL, Pokersmith, It's a contrarian's game, isn't it? Hope all of your long tickers are green; cheers!
- Forexpro: Re: $GFS Hi, Friends, Our colleague MarketMaster mentioned this one last week, and on the back of coverage initiated by a slew of brokerage firms - with "Buy" ratings from $BAC and $DB, inter alia - plus a favorable mention at Barrons.com ("Global Foundries, Ford's Semi-conductor Partner, Is Wall Street's New Darling"), the stock is having quite a good morning. No position. All the best!
- MarketMaster: @Forexpro $GFS $BAC $DB one gets lucky sometimes!
- Motorman: $FIVE Closed Gap, up 10% since last post, $DB lifts PT $271
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Apparently, they were preying on the unsophisticated among their corporate foreign exchange customers, making "big figure mistakes". If a customer wanted, say, to buy Euros, and the price was 1.2123, the sales trader would quote 1.2223, ma ... - wanda1616: @Forexpro $WFC $DB thanks for elaborating. i find it hard to believe this bank is still allowed to operate !! outrageous. and the CEO just gets to retire comfortably. very comfortably.
- Pokersmith: @wanda1616 $WFC $DB As you said, " truly interesting times " What a world ,eh? You are fortunate..to be on a farm ( of sorts? ) keeping company with horses and I assume other animals? Away from the wretched souls, ( the 10 % ), of the world.
- PhilHarmonic: @Forexpro $WFC $DB On our vacations to Europe I've had occasion to exchange money at Wells Fargo stores. They are crooks in my opinion.. If you are at a location where they are the only nearby exchange store then you can expect to pay a very high exchange rate. They did not charge just a little over the correct rate. They charged a lottttt over. Don't understand why they are still in business. Who trusts them?
- wanda1616: @Pokersmith $WFC $DB yes i am lucky. i have 3 horses and 3 dogs, some fancy and some rescued from a disastrous fate. if i had unlimited funds i would have more of them! they all have hearts of gold and are innocent of malice and greed. and they appreciate everything and try really hard to please. (except the corgi who is a little hog : )
- cgendro1: @wanda1616 $WFC $DB I couldn't agree more! I am fortunate to live on a 12 acre farm in northwest GA w cows, chickens and 2 wonderful Aussies. They have a great agility setup and I have great fun w them! I have all sorts of birds including hummingbirds whose antics amaze me daily! All of it provides a great perspective on life and the beauty around us:)
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I think that, given some time, the new CEO (Jane Fraser) is capable of turning things around. The bank doesn't have the kind of national franchise that $JPM and $BAC notably possess, but it does have a sizable card portfolio and a strong position in ... - gtr89: @Forexpro $C $JPM $BAC $DB let us know if you do find a trade lol
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Forexpro: @gtr89 $C $JPM $BAC $DB
Hey, Gtr89,
Thinking about long Aug 67.50 calls/short Aug 72.50 calls. Could probably get it done for 1.92, so 192/contract is the max loss, 308 the maximum gain. TastyTrade calculates that the probability of making half th ... - gtr89: @Forexpro $C $JPM $BAC $DB interesting trade especially with rates spiking
- gtr89: @Forexpro $C $JPM $BAC $DB you are a wealth of information! I suppose the Fed taper chatter is the reason for the recent poor performance in $NLY
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Forexpro: @gtr89 $C $JPM $BAC $DB
Thanks, Gtr89,
The "rates spiking" thing gets complicated, as the real issue is the differential between banks' borrowing costs (I use the 3 month bill rate as a proxy) and where they can lend (I use the 10-year T ... -
Forexpro: @gtr89 $C $JPM $BAC $DB $NLY
Thanks, Gtr89,
My knowledge is just a function of getting beaten up regularly when I was starting out in capital markets and had to memorize the late Marcia Stigum's "The Money Market". I wouldn't describe th ... - gtr89: @Forexpro $C $JPM $BAC $DB $NLY Hey @Forexpro, excuse my relative ignorance, but wouldn’t an investor in MBS’s benefit from a rise in interest rates from a cash flow perspective? Declining interest rates will result in mortgage refinances which is a negative for the MBS market
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Forexpro: @gtr89 $C $JPM $BAC $DB $NLY
Hey, Gtr89,
Let's see, what are the moving parts? First, $NLY is positively correlated with rates, tending to rise as yields rise, although less so over the past few days. That's shown pretty clearly on the chart. Yes, ... - champ: $CARR..@ $48.90 ...$C came out with a new price target at today at $51 and $DB came out with a new price target at $53, on 6/23.... ......I'm expecting more upgrades, especially after they report their earnings, could see upgrades much higher than $53, could see even see a great earnings bounce. I have a core Investment position and I'm also still building-up my trading position...and I double-up on that position size this morning.
- lostsheep: $DB hard to post but weekly and monthly triggers
- bRobert: @Sher $CBOE $JPM $DB $JPM. WEEKLY. Cup. base. breakout in motion. $200. potential. Leaps
- agiaccag: @Forexpro $VIAC $GS $MS $DB $CS $NMR very interesting. thx for sharing insight.
- joelsg1: @Forexpro $VIAC $GS $MS $DB $CS $NMR Wow, Arch Egos, good insight. Also, Contracts for Differences, kinda like Friends with Benefits, while it lasts.
- BobG: @Forexpro $VIAC $GS $MS $DB $CS $NMR Thanks for the inside observations. I always learn a ton from you.
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This might be a sensible arrangement for all concerned if the bank and the hedgie are the only counterparties. However, Archegos, to pick a name not at random, evidently had prime brokerage arrangements with $GS, $MS, $DB, $CS, $NMR, and wherever, a ... - Henry: $MCD $DB raised it's pt to $232 and it gapped and crapped
- metal: @Henry $MCD $DB $MCD The price target was raised to 244 from 232. That is what AMTD says anyway.
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Well, here we are, with the E-minis down 1.3 percent, or thereabouts, light, sweet crude futures off almost 5 percent, and the Dollar half a percent higher versus the Euro. The world does seem messier this morning, but perhaps that's largely because ... - lostsheep: $SQ With lots of gap ups this morning this is down just a touch on the $APPL Mobeewave purchase. $DB raises pt to 140. This chart looks like many others looking to take out recent highs and may offer an entry that you don't have to chase. Like everything else this has come a long way from 39 and the March lows
- bRobert: @lostsheep $SQ $APPL $DB $$Q. $150 weekly wedge target 1. (for a long time). $200. longer term. Long LEAP calls from quite a way down.
- shoredriver: @Larryzz #Fed ....Nirp and hoovering up most stocks......getting closer to full on ugly...remember the changes to money markets that they made that you really don't own them,..... they do....also remember the buck breaking for mm's in '08...or was it '09......also $DB, $HSBC and maybe $WFC problems.....domino's baby......
- lostsheep: $LYFT - Currently trading just above the 1mon old baby 200 day ma and the recent high of 50.96. $WFC,$DB AND RBC all still very positive on the stock. Few dips are not bought in this market. Good luck today
- CraigReynolds: @lostsheep $LYFT $WFC $DB Seems to be the best ride business to me. I had a position and sold prior to yesterday's close. Looking to re-entry.
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Forexpro: Re: $DB
Hi, Friends,
Back in my desk days, $DB was, along with $C, a major player in FX, with ambitions to be a top global investment bank. That hasn't worked out well, and I've pretty much stopped paying attention to the stock, as the bank has bee ... - lostsheep: @woodman $TER $DB upgraded pt to 70. At 71.39 maybe time for another
- DAN: Good morning. Futures are running in the negative this morning, but only slightly. This is a normal "backing and filling" process that you'll typically see when stocks test key resistance levels. There was a lot of chatter over the weeke ...
- Vic: $BX started a small position at 46. Looks like it was down in sympathy with $DB.
- jknyborg: @DAN $DB $APRN $OLED $OMCL Would be great for a class on exits. Where to take profit. For me not trading long here it seems that most exits go on SL - or I exit to early. Entries I find easier as I like to see thight MA's and do some BO but find that around 50% of BO's seem to be pulling back before I get to sell. Looking forward to class and admire the energy you give us all. (I am 60 years myself:)
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Forexpro: Re: $DB
Hi, Friends,
Every dog has its day, or so I'm told, and even terrible companies have stocks that can look sufficiently cheap to attract buyers. At least $DB got a better grade on its Fed tests than did $CS. Two cheers! While I can't imagine ... -
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P.S. Brian Bedell, a reasonably prominent banking sector analyst at $DB, today cut $BK, $NTRS and (incongruously) $SCHW to "Hold" from "Buy". According to SeekingAlpha, his rationale is ongoing depressed valuations due to the prospect of Fed easing. ... - debeers: $DB@Forexpro: Why in the world would $DB buy that piece of feces called Commerzebanc? Are they dumpster diving?? Sorry---not quite awake yet....thanks in advance- O brilliant one!
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Forexpro: @debeers $DB
Hey, Lady DeBeers,
I think that the candid answer is "We know it won't work, but what else can we do?" German retail is locked up by a host of local banks, there are plenty of lenders to the Mittelstand, and top-tier corpora ... - shoredriver: $ISRG...Upped by $DB to $630.....
- champ: $WFC ....#downgrade...by another bank $DB, not positive when the bank CEO, steps down because of Political pressure. He changed everything but she still wanted him out....he probably couldn't even sleep at night.
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Forexpro: Re: $DB
Hi, Friends,
According to the Financial Times, which I'm just getting around to, German regulators are hesitating to greenlight $DB's merger with $CRZBY because they are concerned that $DB management will not proceed with the "ruthless ... - CraigReynolds: Bought opening small positions in $DB $FEYE $SQ $NS for trades. Working nicely, will watch for continuations.
- 1winkie: @CraigReynolds $DB $FEYE $SQ $NS $FEYE was raised to Overweight from Neutral with a $20 price target at JPMorgan, with the firm talking about strong billings and conservative guidance understating the growth upside. The consensus target price is $20.30, and a 52-week trading range is $14.20 to $20.61
- CraigReynolds: @1winkie $DB $FEYE $SQ $NS That was reason to enter if it looked good at opening. Will see. Don't know.
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Forexpro: Re: $DB
Hi, Friends,
A fairly disastrous performance from this once-mighty (at least in capital markets) bank. There is more chatter that the German government will finally permit a merger with the healthier $CRZBY, but that's been the subject of s ... - indigo1948: @Forexpro $DB $CRZBY $C -it is amazing to me how far $DB has fallen. I have a brother-in-law who is a securities analyst in their San Francisco office-hope his position is secure as a merger seems the best option. All the best.
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$DB is slashing bonuses in the investment bank. As a former employee of an investment bank that was subsequently acquired by $DB, I wish to protest strongly.
In case you think that anything ever changes, here's a note from today's WSJ.com:
" ... - CraigReynolds: @Forexpro $GS $DB Swamps for sure. Wonder how the market digests all the swamps? Good trading day to you.
- Forexpro: Re: $DB Hi, Friends, Even with today's outsized pop, this looks to me like a pretty feeble chart. A merger with $CRZBY may prove to be one of those 1 plus 1 equals 0.75 mergers. $DB has, or had, a lot of capital markets expertise (certainly more than Commerz), but I don't see a combination as likely to make market participants more eager to deal there, or inclined to provide larger profit margins. Still, anyone who closed their eyes and took a long stake in $DB yesterday is happy today. Here's hoping that your day is making you happy; all the best!
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$DB-another day, another malfeasance.
AIRBUS NEWS-Merkel's plane had to make an emergency landing on her way to the G20. No
tampering found. She'l be arriving today. - shoredriver: ...$DB....not pretty......employees arrested for money laundering.... ..
- Forexpro: Re: $DB Hi, Friends, Not that it's been all that great a day for financials and banks generally, but according to the WSJ, $DB is acknowledging that it was the correspondent bank that processed roughly $150 bn of the illicit Russian funds laundered through Danske Bank's mighty Estonian branch. The stock, rarely all that robust, is getting clobbered. According to the same piece, $JPM also had a correspondent banking relationship with Danske, which it reportedly severed in 2015 due to (well-founded) money laundering concerns. Schlechte alte Deutsche Bank. Here's hoping that your day is going better; all the best!
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$DB – consolidation for about 2 months. Breakout today. Thoughts?
$TCEHY – My question. “Is this a good example of why it’s important to avoid falling in love with a ticker, and to pay attention to moving averages?” ... - champ: @bsafriet $PKI @ $95.12 ---- Know real news, that I see....nothing compelling, just a upgrade with a target at $93...today by $DB...and it had a nice move, might continue, don't really know.
- Wykeman: $DB acting horrible..contagion. np
- Forexpro: @Wykeman $DB Hi, Wykeman, You've probably already seen it, but $MS downgraded $DB to "underweight" ("Whaddya mean, you haven't sold it yet?!") from "equal weight" (Sell!). Seems just a tad late to me. I didn't see $DB on the list of banks with the largest exposure to Turkey this morning, but Barron's says that the bank has gone in harm's way,. Others with better information than I currently have access to may know, or suspect, that there is danger lurking there. It wouldn't be like $DB to miss a disaster. The yield curve has become a headwind again for all banks. Not a great combo, but the stock was very close to breaking out into a new uptrend. Not now. Hope you're doing well; all the best!
- Wykeman: @Forexpro $DB $MS Thanks for the info! You also have a blessed weekend ;)
- Forexpro: @Forexpro $AXP Hi Friends, As might be expected following a surprise (and negative) headline story at WSJ.com, $AXP is having a rough day. No idea how expensive this will prove to be; $DB recently got off with a $205 mio fine for a variety of naughty deeds in the FX market, but that was after it had been clobbered with billions in penalties for a host of other errors of omission, commission and supervision. Other things being equal, I wouldn't mind owning a bit of this, but until there is more clarity as to which regulatory bodies will be pursuing the case, and I have a better idea of what was (okay, allegedly) done, I'm staying away from it. All the best!
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Forexpro: Re: $DB
Hi, Friends,
If I owned this sorry pooch, I guess I'd be tempted to spread rumors. As in, $JPM may have an "interest" in buying it. Yeah, right, the only thing $JPM needs to complete its roster is a competitor that is losing share ... - shoredriver: @Forexpro $DB $JPM $CRZBY I think when the day comes to put this dog down( fast approaching) Putin may step in since Mutti( Frau Merkel) is pivoting Germany in his direction
- Forexpro: @shoredriver $DB $JPM $CRZBY LOL. Shoredriver, Seems redundant: (from CNN Money, Jan 31 2017): "The big fines keep coming for Deutsche Bank. The giant German lender was hit with about $630 million in penalties on Tuesday over a $10 billion Russian money-laundering scheme that involved its Moscow, New York and London branches." $DB's ongoing struggle is just one more headache for Mutti, who must have Bayer on direct dial. All the best!
- Forexpro: Re: Banks Hi, Friends, Painting with a very broad brush, $GS and $MS lose and $WFC wins as the result of the second round of the bank stress tests. Oh, $DB lost, which isn't a surprise, and $STT was held back slightly, although it doesn't trade as heavily, after hours, and i'm not seeing much response in the stock's price. Otherwise, as expected, banks were given the go-ahead to pay out to 95 percent of their earnings in the form of dividends and stock buybacks. All the best!
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Forexpro: Re: $DB
Good Morning, Friends,
This caught my eye as I did my rounds this morning. Oversold, as Dan observed in Tuesday's Strategy Session, and with good cause. From the WSJ:
"The Federal Reserve has designated Deutsche Bank AG’s sprawl ... - bigbartabs: @Forexpro $DB ... hey buddy... what's within their "sprawling US business" comment? What are they concerned with, do you know? Just over invested with risk?
- Forexpro: @bigbartabs $DB Hola, Amigo, I think that this sums it up: "Fed supervisors grew exasperated with its shortcomings in systems and controls and the slow pace of improvements, people familiar with internal discussions said." A vastly complex business with poor IT and monitoring would be likely to annoy the Federales. Of course, over the past few years the bank has been serially fined for lapses in trading, money laundering prevention, etc. so there isn't much patience, especially given that the parent isn't domiciled in the U.S. Here's hoping that you're well, thriving, and enjoying life; all the best!
- indigo1948: @Forexpro $DB - thanks for the information - my brother-in-law is an analyst in their San Francisco office and I wonder if this will have an impact on such employees down the road. The stock has been nothing short of a "train wreck." As an aside are you still monitoring $BRKS? It has been very good to me over the past few months - still long. All the best.
- Forexpro: @indigo1948 $DB $BRKS Hi, Indigo1948, $BRKS has indeed been an excellent performer, and I'm sorry to say that I never saw my way clear to getting involved. Myopia on my part, clearly. Delighted that it's been working so well for you. Take care, and all the best!
- DAN: $DB -- like I said, it's falling knife. All you knife catchers need to look for another toy. This will cut you and gut you.
- shoredriver: @DAN $DB for sure is in your turd category...and has been for quite some time..........problem is if it to single digits or lower in the bowl it might do some real damage to the overall banking sector/market........
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rachel: ...
1. $DB – this is a falling knife. Tempting to try to catch the knife…but it’s not worth it.
2. $GS – distribution. Stay away from the big banks.
3. $MS – at $50…but this is NOT a buy.
4. $JPM – testing t ... -
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P.S. Speaking of Bloomberg, here's an interview posted today with Steven Eisman of "The Big Short" fame. Steve Carell doesn't look all that much like him, but whatever. He's currently short Canadian financial, I presume on concerns over housing bubb ... -
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Speaking of banks, $DB, which continues to face challenges, is reportedly looking to replace its CEO. If I'm not mistaken, the current gent, John Cryan, hasn't been in place for even two years.
All the best! -
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$C is interesting. It got dinged for overcharging credit card customers - good thing you were sitting down, huh? - but it has the most overseas, especially emerging market, exposure. That's like an additional form of leverage, and can help, or hurt. ... - debeers: @Forexpro $KBE $BAC $GS $JPM $MS $PNC $C $USB $WFC $VFH $BRK $AXP $DB $UBS $SIVB ---When I look around any room, you are 1 of the smartest guys there and, that having been said, the additional bonus is you are so nice and so kind.
- Forexpro: @debeers $KBE $BAC $GS $JPM $MS $PNC $C $USB $WFC $VFH $BRK $AXP $DB $UBS $SIVB Thanks, Lady DeBeers, You're far too kind, I'm afraid. Thanks as well for your ongoing input and guidance. All the best!
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Forexpro: Re: Non-farm Payrolls, $DB
Good Morning, Friends,
Non-farm payrolls came in at plus 200k, vs a market view of around 177k, with the rate unchanged as expected at 4.1 percent. There were revisions to the previous two months, but I'll have to go back ... -
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There are never any guarantees, but on the slightly different chart setup that I use as my default, yes, $C looks buyable. The only pending negative news that I'm aware of concerns Europe; according to the Financial Times over the weekend, eight lar ... - bwcarnation1: $DB double bottom, higher hi's and lows broke above 50d then pb to test and now back above 50d. Europe doing well thinking the banks should do well.
- champ: $URI @ $143 ....HOD and this is a New ATH.. RHRN but all of these #Hurricane stocks are really zig-zagging now, as they climb higher....the new target from $DB is $157 but their guess is no better than yours, could maybe be a little better. When stocks have big earnings potential, they can climb much higher, as long as the markets, are moving up.
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