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- roddog101: $JOE one of Kuppy's fav is doing a nice little breakout fwiw, you have to be here in panhandle to get a feel for what they doing, its insane growth imo.
- roddog101: Nibbling on $JOE,, unless you been to the Gulf to see what they doing you dont know,, they have a backlog at Margaritaville and still selling homes faster than they can build.
- roddog101: $JOE a gift down here imo. You have to go there to appreciate what’s going on there imo.
- roddog101: Doesn’t $JOE look like a break out play?
- roddog101: Can someone lay eyes on $JOE? Looks like a possible break out could be coming. I am in the panhandle where they are the largest landowner and they have some amazing projects going on right now , Margaritaville and others. Kuppy was pounding table a while back on this one
- sierramp: @roddog101 $JOE ER a.h. today. It's been in a range for several months, not trending up. 50D is flat, preferably should be trending up. Averages are not stacked, 21D and 50D are below the 200D. ROE is 10%, 17% or above is preferred. IBD's pivot (BP) is 57.55 which was Feb high. Depending on earning report, I wouldn't look at it before it moves above Jun high of 49.65. I think there are better places for your money.
- shoredriver: @roddog101 $JOE ...who is Kuppy?......
- bRobert: Do you know this $JOE ? I didn't. A nh repeater from. $24 high base breakout to $36. No drama 50% walk up Just an example. Under the radar. winners $KLIC. another. CHEAP GROWTH. $39. WEEKLY C&H. like
- scottrades: My video notes: $SPY Held the Weekly low. $QQQ Watch the slope $GBTC Some selling but in trend. $AAPL Getting tighter $GOOGL One of the better looking tech stocks. $DQ Earnings on the 23rd. Little Flag $TSLA Still just grinding. $NIO High volume selling, earnings next week. $SOLO I’m out, sold the last of my calls for a nice gain. Short term chart trade now if you’re not in. $JOE In trend along the 8EMA, 25 Days of Short interest. $GRBK Dan alerted to this at 15, it’s still working. $BIDU Still looks good. Watch 146 for an entry. $CRSR Earnings out of the way. In trend along the 8EMA $JD Close to the highs. Earnings Monday $LOGI Watch 84.35 $MTCH PB Buy off the 8 EMA. $PINS Watch above the slope $PTC Short shelf. $SPWR Short flag. Have a great weekend everyone!
- issues: Bot the following (small number of shares:) $JOE $FVRR $AEM $PFSI $IAA $AVNW $GOGO. IAA is in the IBD group #8 with $PAG $CVNA $LAD... prefer $IAA to CVNA (just in a channel - so I put in a limit order on the bottom of the channel.)
- El_Tuito: $JOE ...sot this is on the option flow board 2,078 Calls / 219% above average. $Joe popped up several times last week, too. Check the daily ...nice bottoming play with some big green volume bars telling you that there's not much downside from here. An added plus ....a boatload of shorts
- El_Tuito: $JOE ...has had excellent call flow last week and today. Pretty sure the bottom is in. Check you chart ....
- dkoran: $JOE - shorted earlier today. I am real familiar with these guys and their property . They have sold most all of the good stuff. David Einhorn was correct in his assessment. CEO just retired(resigned or something )I think he had a fair value of around $6 .Another example of financial engineering that eventually catches up with you (IMHO)
- Neil375: $JOE St Joe Co. A Florida real estate and development company. I can't buy it here, but thought it might be worth watching.
- farview: @Neil375 $JOE $RYN Take a look at $RYN even tough their name makes me think Pacific N.W. they do own a lot of gulf property. Squeezing on the daily chart at the 50 day and well off its high. 4.3 % div. well you wait.
- rah: $JOE - one of Dans (older) favorites seems to be doing well and moving this am. Recently, this Home Builder was involved in a waterway development group to improve the area to help it become a larger shipping site for wood, wood pulp etc.. near which they own a tremendous amount of timber land. Yesterday I see that they are looking into selling some of this land rights ( I assume to the timber). Up2.8% this am. Technical pattern looking good too! rah
- rah: $JOE - High Short Interest, 39 days to cover (according to shortsqueeze.com), up 4.3% so far today. Has been in nice uptrend since mid- April. I measure - Long Fib targets as $26 & $28 (a move from here of 12.6% and 21.5%) . Currently at $23.
- rah: Homebuilders (@DAN)- as a group seem to be moving up this am. Scanning the charts, these (as @Dan reviewed over the weekend) are off the lows and as such should be seen as either a short term counter trend trade or looking to sell (reduce) into strength on these "currenty broken sector stocks". I am not personally doing this. I do hold only $JOE, small position, expecting to close this out what may be the only chart in the sector I see that seems to be working. I hate to do it. But I do believe, despite the differences, birds of a feather do flock together. Your thoughts (if any ) are appreciated. - rah
- rah: $JOE - The St. Joe Company - ($20.63, +1.86% at noon ) a @Florida Real Estate Development co. (and one of @Dan's watch lists mentions) seems to be firming up this month (so far) as an up trending stock, off support (rechecked) at 18.97 last month as well as Sept. and Oct of last year. A move I only appreciated by re-marking a channel on my chart. It did drop 23% since 1/23/13, but has broken that down swing and posted a few higher lows. I think this is a good time to take a closer look at this one. Fib Proj. suggest a 26.23 and 28.18 move. (27 & 36% moves, if complete). It made todays move, passing the 50dma and the 200 dma is just a scootch higher at $21. The swings will make you money; better to catch them near the bottom. - rah
- rj7150: $JOE - Reported after the close yesterday. Was up in the after hours. Has high short interest. This could pop and run. I am holding small position from the previous high. It was not a good entry.
- rj7150: $JOE - Sometimes you're the windshield, sometimes you're the bug. Is there alcohol in that bug remover?
- snmtraders: $JOE @rczar - Congratulations on your sale, leaseback. Just wondering whether the same rally you see in Sarasota is happening across the state, particularly looking at $JOE, the FLA real estate play that drove Berkowitz to drinking.
- rczar: $JOE @snmtraders.....They are the "PLAYA!" in Fl. I believe it is a great play, with builders looking for land more and more. Latest #'s on new arrivals coming to live here are @ 1,000 a day. Expected to pass N.Y. as the third largest state. @Florida is back, for sure. As to the rest of it, I am not 100% sure but the past hot spots are surely hot. It is here.
- MissMet: $JOE - First #options (long call) trade I ever made, last spring, and still the best percentage & $ gain I have ever had. But just dumb luck - not smart on technical analysis.
- taylor: $JOE @dkoran - If you can't short the stock, but would like to, short the Call #Options. You can ALWAYS do that.
- Ararat: $JOE @Taylor - "short the Call #Options"? What??? Do you mean buy a put? Or something else?
- taylor: $JOE - I mean SELL call #options. If you are willing the SHORT the stock, the risk is no higher to SHORT the calls, and may be less. If the stock goes down the #options go down.
- Ararat: $JOE @BTB - Thanks. It is my wish that folks in this Forum say EXACTLY what they mean instead of assuming that we all know the lingo. And when we all know the lingo, there will always be newbies that don't know the lingo! Maybe a Forum Dictionary would be helpful! :-)
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$MSI ... - Henry: Market @scorpino I think technically this is a big (as in $JOE BIDEN BIG) move today. I don't know if it goes 2 days or there is some digestion tomorrow. I have traded in and out of $LNKD, and established new positions in $EBAY, $UA and $GOOG @Henry
- Zatodeb: $JOE - kissing the 200 dma after 2 months, but basically within a 6-m uptrend. This $FL land stk has been the subject of a long running feud btwn 2 ace investors (Berkowitz & Einhorn) -- but this appears to be a great spot to take a small position with a tight stop, for aggressive investors. $Z
- cmac: $JOE nice breakout today on big volume. This is my real estate play. Move above the 200 day, and above the Jan high are good confirmations.
- cmac: $JOE looks like short covering rally
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New 52 week lows include: $ACW, $ADM, $ADVS, $AEIS, $AF, $AFAM, $AFL, $AGII, $AGO, $AIG, $AKAM, $AKS, $ALL, $ALNY, $ALR, $AMCC, $AMED, $AMKR, $AMSC, $ANAD, $ANR, $ANW, $AOL, $ARAY, $ARC, $ARI, $ARRY, $ART, $ASEI, $ASIA, $ATHX, ATPG, $AUO, $AUXL, $AV ... - vitaly077: $TCB - $JOE - Take a look at these stocks. Technicals speak @fore themselves. What is more interesting about these is the short ratio.
- chasking1: $JOE - I read a story a while back that some analyst has a axe to grind and he has been #shorting for a while and he has not been successful. Chas
- killbill: $JOE - The St. Joe Company - Can anybody offer any opinion on this one. I am thinking (not sure if I am thinking right) that this may be a canidate for a straddle today. The volatility in the #options pricing is crazy high and I am trying to learn from watching other straddle trades as to what makes them good canidates. In my thinking (again not sure if right or way wrong) I thought/think it is the volatility of the possible move that is reflected in the higher volatility of the option price. Currently the puts are at 90.+ and the calls in 60.+ range. Is there anything constructive that can be done with this volatility so high. The volatility should disappear after earnings tonight....correct? Any analaysis or feedback would be appreciated. JOJO...can you look at this one? Thanks in advance.
- cmac: $JOE killbill, you're probably better off posting this in the OMM forum, rather than here.....there is overlap on the trading community, but this is a more detailed #options related question than purely stock, so you're more likely to get an answer there. That said, I'd watch out with $JOE since there is so much headline risk, and earnings risk....I'm content to let the big boys fight this one out.
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Forexpro: Re: $JOE
Hi, Killbill,
The company is undergoing a change of control; that may not make earnings irrelevant, but there will be new management in place momentarily, which may keep vol high longer than you anticipate. In any case, if you're looki ... - killbill: $JOE - thanks @forexpro & jojo for the replies. Somehow I got locked out of SMM at lunchtime and @Karen just fixed it for me now. I appreciate the answers and information. Jojo I did put just 1 on at the 25 strike price. That was before I read your reply. That was about all the risk I was willing to take on with my current "straddle" knowledge. I learn a lot from reading both of your posts along with so many other traders here. Thanks again for everything. Lars
- Eptake5: $JOE More details at the beginning of hour 2. It is Blackrock vs David Einhorn, who is on the short side. The discussion is at the start of hour 2. No commercials except for optionmonster, lol.
- Eptake5: Stox and Jocks Radio show this morning. Guy Adami and Dr. j were both pounding the table saying to buy calls on $RRC before earnings on Monday and St. Joe,$JOE, on Tuesday. Good Trading, Rick
- wehappyfew: $JOE Hires $MS to explore merger or sale. Price may pop on this news.
- ssteve: $JOE - how do you play these things that have already shot off the gate. Do you chase them? What is a good strategy. Thanks!
- ssteve: $JOE - looks good, but too scray for me to buy at this point, waiting for it to retrace a bit...
- ssteve: $JOE - note that it's been going up, but volume drying up. I think it should come down a bit from here, and provide a better buying opp. Long term, a BUY.
- kaliper: $JOE Significant turnaround continues, buoyed today by the 13D filing from Fairholme (@Bruce Berkowitz). Stock was clobbered in the wake of the oil spill (overblown) and bearish stance of another big hedge fund player. Could be a lot of upside here.
- cmac: $JOE a real battle ground. But after yesterday's bounce back from SEC informal investigation, shows strength. I won't buy since I have a very significant investment in the Fairholme fund. I can't believe that Berkowitz would invest in any company that was improperly stating its #financials.
- mfosterjet: $MAS - Bouncing off weekly 50MA and daily 200MA after recent breakout/pullback. Many home builder charts looks similar to banks. Other homebuilders, $PHM, $JOE, $HOV, WHR. Also, see $PCL, one of Cramers past favorites.
- sccentral: $JOE St. Joe mentioned this about a month ago.. Looks like Mr. Einhorn was WRONG on this one..large volume past several days may indicate he is waiving the white flag..
- kaliper: $JOE May want to put this one on your radar. Brought down hard, first by potential damage to their beachfront property by the oil spill concerns and then by a major assault from well-respected investor William Ackman. On the other hand Fairholme Capital's @Bruce Berkowitz has been a major backer of the stock and was just given two seats on the Board of Directors. $JOE was as high as 37 the week of the spill and as high as 85 in 2005. Obviously a lot of "I want my money back" players to contend with but the story may be a very good one, especially if Berkowitz proves correct.
- OPTIONSWEALTH: $JOE - My question would be: What are they going to do with this property. They have had it for a very long time and it is in an area of @Florida that is very under developed and has been so for as long as I have lived here, more than 1/2 my lifetime. Unless they begin to develop or sell off part of this... They were at one time heavy into paper but without research I don't know about that anymore.
- chengsu.2005: $JOE - up 8%, over 20% short, out of #squeeze. Looked at it yesterday but missed the action. Anyone looking at this? Cheng
- tnt: $JOE, 22 million shares short and Fairholme owns 30% of the company. I am sure he is not lending out his shares to short sellers. Leaves a small float to work with and could get going real fast. $JOE is coming out of a 2 week consolidation period and now pushing higher on trendline resistance on daily chart. It is a bit of bottom picking for sure, but has the potential for a powerful off the lows if a #squeeze starts. @Bruce Berkowitz from Fairholme is no dummy and owns 30% of the company and has said he wants to take it private if they wil let him. Would go for a nice pemium I am sure
- debrup: Volatility #Squeeze Scan: $PDII LPX SFSF CELG $ED NYX $AET CI NETL FTEK $MRK SPF $AMTD PCP $CFN JDSU $ED UA $ACI X $PMT AMLN $AXL EXC. These were the more interesting looking charts from a scan on the Russel 3000 stocks. Maybe there are some in this list that you can use. These are squeezes and please be aware as @Henry said in his comment above, they can resolve up as well as down. As we saw with $JOE last week, oops. The way I play these is by setting an price alert where i think expansion resolves to the upside. Have a great weekend all.
- pqranchjon: $JOE - heads up! looks like sell off is overdone.... dead cat bounce... for a trade .... @Tim Melvin reports on realmoney @silver that David Einhorn and @Bruce Berkowitz of Fairholme Funds are each taking opposite positions in a big way in this name....
- dirk: $JOE - fishing in muddy waters here, be very careful, there are better things to look at IMHO. Dirk
- tradethebull: $JOE depends, yesterday I bought a $22.50 Put for $2.10 and sold it today for $3.50. Not sure what else would have gotten a 66% gain in a day...
- italmike: $JOE what do you have going on? Are you in it, or do want to get in it? If your in it, and underwater, just get out and move on. Looking at red on your trade station sucks for your mental well being.
- italmike: $JOE the chart doesn't look very healthy to me. On a daily chart your 50 needs to cross the 100. Then you have to 200 looming about 2 bucks higher. I just don't see why. To each their own...
- shredex3: JOE- Welcome to SMM, $JOE has alot of exposure to the gulf coast land development and as we all know, developments have slowed if not halted especially in that area. Looking at the chart, I was surprised it held up in the 20's. As @Dan would say, it is trading in a box, low 24's highs 26's. Really no way to predict a breakout, but it has been in the box for a couple of months. The #squeeze could be a good thing, so if it breaks out above 27.00 look for it to retest 26.00 and hopefully continue up, then would be a good buy. I am not a pro at this, but I think this is somewhat accurate. Good Luck with all your trades. @Kyle
- OBXer: $JOE - This $NY Times article that ran this morning should allay fears about the oil spill's impact on JOE's land holdings. http://www.nytimes.com/2010/08/04/science/earth/04oil.html?th&emc=th
- fishpatience: $JOE went into this in longer term account after @Dan covered it ith homebuilders. so far, ok. Know some of $JOE holdings from fishing Fla gulf coast and they are very large and well situated.
- Dannomon: $JOE - This is just plain deceptive: "three-quarters of the oil from the Deepwater Horizon leak has already evaporated, dispersed, been captured or otherwise eliminated." Since when does oil evaporate? The official tally out yesterday was somewheres around 5 million barrels leaked, 800 thousand recovered. Man are they doing the spin.
- jojo1480: GFA- Brazilian home builder reported earnings Tue evening, rev increased in Rial$927M, a 31% increase QoQ, adjusted EBITDA margin of 19.8% vs 15.8% in 2009. terrific looking chart, stock is a slow mover. Long GFA. $JOE looking at the charts makes me want to jump in and take a nibble.
- FastOne: $JOE - regarding St. Joe, just think about this one from an empirical stand-point. Are you or anyone you know planning a trip this summer to the @Florida coast? I would wait this one out. Their properties are great, I just think the timing right now is at a low and due to get worse when earnings are released for current quarter and next quarter.
- Dannomon: $JOE - Thanks @Gary. I take it you're in the thick of it.
- OBXer: $JOE - so I'm holding $JOE and earnings are released tomorrow before the market opens. So, took some time to research JOE's past earnings. $JOE has had a loss for each of the last 8 qtrs. Not only that, but they have also missed expectations for each of the last 8 qtrs, by an average $0.17 per qtr. Oddly, however, this does not seem to impact price action, seems to just keep trading the prevailing trend, positive or negative. If you are holding $JOE you may want to look at this yourself, last 8 earnings date releases are 5/4/10, 2/23/10, 11/3/9, 8/4/9, 5/5/9, 2/24/9, 11/4/8, 8/5/8.
- gjsmith: $JOE - Thanks for your effort in researching the earnings, I think I'm going to chance holding half of my position into the earnings.
- dagdog: $JOE : @Moose- Yes. However, they report earnings 8/5/10 before market & given the $BP spill quarter I will wait to see what this one does. Just my .02.
- dlylis: $JOE - I am with @dagdog on this one. With earnings on the 5th, being in the homebuilders, and the oil, would make me very cautious about seeing a stellar earnings report. But that's me.
- joanie: $JOE - I took an entry on this as well as HOV. I'll likely end up ditching one in favor of the other per the pyramid plan.
- FastOne: $JOE - anyone have any thoughts on St. Joe Co? Made a good short but looks like the negative news on the Gulf is subsiding (for some reason,) and $JOE is moving back up. If anyone has a position on this I would love to hear their thoughts. Thnx
- mfosterjet: $XHB, Homebuilder stocks perking up. $TOL, $BZH, $KBH, $RYL, $LEN, $PHM, $JOE, HOV.
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- Dannomon: $JOE - @Dan or anybody, I could use some advise on this great stock. It has been rising fast towards its August and September highs of 34 but the past has shown it to meet strong resistance at that level (3 attempts already). I'm thinking, take a little off the table when we hit 34 and keep a stop on the rest maybe at 32 since I expect at least a short pullback before punching through. Thoughts?
- Dannomon: $XLF, $JOE - #Financials are up this morning (bad time to be holding FAZ). $JOE has been exceptional these last couple weeks and it's been in the upper bb these last 2 sessions. I plan to add to my position with any good pullback.
- kaliper: $JOE Mentioned this one a while back but didn't get much feedback. Breaking out today no major news. Was a big favorite a few years ago........valuable land holdings. Chart looks outstanding to me... @DAN or anyone, comments appreciated.
- David: $JOE, I like the chart. I will put on my radar. @DAN, I have been waiting for a bull flag to get in but it hasn't really given me a chance to get in with some risk management I am comfortable with. Thanks for the heads up
- bullmoose: $JOE # Yes it's a nice looking chart. Yesterday was the break above the bull flag and a nice entry point with a stop at 28.8. I also should have jumped in today when it broke above 29.5.
- kaliper: HI @DAN: Would first like to say that the value proposition on SMM is truly amazing. It takes a hell of an effort to produce the amount of material on a daily basis that gets put out here not to mention your availability most days in the Forum. I'm not a frequent poster (yet!) but I appreciate a great deal of what goes on here all day. $IF you have a moment to take a look I'd really appreciate your opinion of $JOE, something I commented on the other day. This is, to me, a terrific looking chart........any input appreciated!!
- kaliper: $JOE (the stock) I bought this one a while back and it is up quite nicely on nothing in particular. It is a land play as the company owns huge parcels of real estate and stands to benefit long term from an economic recovery. Interstingly, the Company received two downgrades last week making today's strong action look most interesting. Anyone agree?
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By $JOE NOCERA
Published: July 26, 2008
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On Thursday afternoon, several hours after I'd gotten my final # @Steve's health is a private matter# # and much to my amazement # Mr. Jobs called me. # This is @Steve Jobs,# he began. # You t ... - evanesce: Pleased to help. I should have added that there is a massive short position in $JOE, 28 days to cover at normal volume as of February 29. (This is probably not an unusual statistic for the home builders, I expect the group is heavily shorted.) The Nasdaq site helpfully lists the short positions for the last year. I see that more than half of the shorts entered after May 2007, with about 1/3 of the overall total added since last August. Cross checking aginst the chart I see that those more recent ones are now underwater in the trade and can potentially fuel a short #squeeze, if they get fed up and exit. As always, we shall eventually see what happens.
| Stock Price | $56.86 |
| Change | -0.30% |
| Volume | 167,155 |
St. Joe Corporation is a real estate development company. It owns land, timber and resort assets located mainly in Northwest Florida, Jacksonville, Florida and Tallahassee, Florida.
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